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So let me start by saying, obviously, there is no Ashbringer as far as my character is concerned... well there is, but its with the Highlord of the Silver Hand which... will not be me no matter what the game says! lol

 

However... the idea of growing and building a "unique" weapon is intriguing for RP purposes...so more RP stories the better imo... so I was rolling ideas in my head around about how to do this... and mainly, this applies to the Doomhammer and Ashbringer... because of all the Artifact weapons these two have the most unique history and deepest lore.

 

So... to bring my character into some sort of balance with the weapon / story ... I had an idea of my character finding some sort of demon artifact during one of the invasions or at the Broken Shore... bringing it back to Tyr's Hand, which is their base, having several of the in guild priests and Paladins "purify it" ... take it to Jordan Stillwell ( He crafted Vertigan's Fist, one of the first old school weapons you can get in game for Paladins) have him craft a blade that resembles the Ashbringer to honor the memories of both Alexandros and Tirion... and then having the blade blessed by the Naaru in Shattrath etc etc ... something like that, it sort of blends elements of the Ashbringer story, aka a purified artifact etc... but has its own sort of story / background.

 

The other option is of course just ignoring the artifact weapon altogether... which for me is the only other option...

 

So really, I was just seeing how you guys were looking at the artifact weapons and / or if people were planning on RPing any sort of story / background for them. Any ideas / insights would be appreciated... or if you just loathe any story related to a weapon, Im ok with that too!

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If I'm not mistaken, Kex'ti made a thread about creating non-lore artifact weapons some time ago, and it was quite popular. Let's see if I can't find it...

There it is!

http://wow-tng.org/forums/topic/23143-artifacts-legion-rp-and-the-twin-stars/

Edit: Err, yes, I shouldn,t have forgotten to actually add my point to this post. xD

I think that having personal awesome weapons is great! Give them some story, some unusual powers, make them unique! That's what RP is about, ain't it? It doesn't have to be THE LEGENDARY WEAPON OF LEGEND THAT WILL CREATE LEGENDS (trademark pending) to be awesome!

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hahaha awesome! Yeah I scrolled down a little but admittedly not too much!! :-)

 

And yeah, I agree, that's where I am going with my "Ashbringer" I was just trying to get a feel for the community attitude towards it! I generally like to stay within community standards with any RP I do... hahaha

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For Kanda.....weapons often seem important to orcs, so maybe I'll check out Kex'ti's post linked above, and maybe see if I can get a Sanctuary officer to give her a cool artifact weapon to build or empower.

For Syreena, and probably most of my other rogues, weapons are just a tool to get the job done.  It won't be anything special beyond a more better set of blades.  They'll jump through whatever hoops the questgivers give to get it.  And most of them will be transmogged to look like ordinary weapons so they're not carrying the same weapons as 635,252 other rogues.

None of my characters will have the awesomest, most legendary weapons any rogue has ever had!  Except all of them will!  So none will be more special than any other!  Except they are all the most specialist!  But they'll all have it, so how can any one of them be special?  But THEY ARE ALL SPECIAL!  But.....   *head explodes*

 

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Yeah, I agree with that... some classes / weapons its not a big deal at all... and then there is Ashbringer and Doomhammer... lol

 

Im content with the Highlord of the Silver Hand having it... which is apparently going to be the player character, just not my player character cause I got no time to run the Silver Hand and an offshoot of the Scarlet Crusade at the same time. What am I, Harvey Dent?

 

I cant pull up the other article at work for some reason, BLAST! I will look when I get home, but im running with a personalized, look-a-like... sort of weapon to honor the memories of glorious paladins!

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I've been having a hard time accepting the artifact weapons RP wise for both their appearance and history, since my character has always been one for the simple look with nothing grand about his clothing or weapons. (unless you count the horribly eye-burning colors and designs he often favors ;) )

 

With Holy seeming to be the best fit for my character now ICly, I'm looking at the weapon and... I think I may just transmog it to look like a simple walking stick for old people again. I did glance over the post you linked Sy, and it is pretty awesome. Just nothing quite fits for my character, so will probably be ignoring the whole artifact weapon RP thing. I've already got something baked into the character similar to one of the suggestions in the other thread, ironically, lol. However, if something develops through RP that would end up with Aruku getting a special thing, I'll just go with the flow.

 

Everyone's going to have their own approach to the artifact weapons, and each approach will be different, and right for their characters. That's what's awesome about a community. :) Looking forward to seeing what everyone's up to!

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I actually took one of the ideas from Kex'ti's thread that Resi linked. I really liked the concept behind the Nightfall Drakeswarrd he created for the prot warrior artifact. I did a bit of tweaking to make it fit with Mya and she actually received the shattered pieces of it during Quorum. I'm looking forward to playing with it come Legion!

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Kex'ti and I spoke a loooong time ago (during Ch. 2 of Quorum, holy dang!) about Katelle using the assassination weapon he has listed. The lore he's created for it fits perfectly, and because it's a "player idea," I don't have a problem with using it's listed abilities as Kex'ti has written them. However, she simply just doesn't carry around large weapons like that, preferring her very slim daggers...so probably what will happen is she'll have to learn to carry the damn thing on her back, enchanted for invisibility until she uses it. *cackles* Otherwise, the artifact weapon I get will be immediately transmogged to a dagger she arleady uses, because ICly she wouldn't be carrying around a giant green sharp thing anyways. 

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I'm not much of a fan of the Ashbringer being the artifact weapon. I'll just have to turn a blind eye to Awatu getting the thing and then transmog it back into his big-ass axe!

 

I just find it odd, though I understand the reason, that there are no-name artifacts and then there are the big-name ones (Ashbringer, Doomhamer, Felo'melorn).

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I was having problems reconciling how I was going to deal with this problem, especially when there will be so many characters using the same weapons.  Likewise, I can't say I really liked the models for most of the hunter weapons as compared to what I've been using.  For those reasons, I'd already decided just to transmog whatever hunter weapon I'm using to Rhok'delar, but Kex'ti's idea makes things a lot easier to still utilize in game and maintain that aspect of gameplay.  It helps in this case, maybe just for personal preference/vanity, that I probably won't have to worry that much about someone else using the appearance as well.  

I'll have to write up something myself for it obviously, but the ideas help a heck of a lot.

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Yeah I am just going to have a new weapon that is crafted by some minor lore characters, i.e. Jordan Stillwell, with a little story around it, I -love- the Ashbringer and the model... so Im going to be using it, but just having it crafted in a similar way to pay homage to great heroes, in the process of thinking up a name, already have sort of a story, its not going to be so much an "artifact" as its going to be a new weapon...

 

I was able to read Kex'ti's thread and I loved it tho, a ton of awesome ideas in there!

I already have Cav's "usual" weapon and armor shattered at the Broken Shore, soooo the story is moving already... but I also find it curious how some classes got lore rich weapons, and some were just created... I mean even the Frost DK shards of Frostmourne type of weapon is something you could justify in RP... but all these Ashbringers and Doomhammers... while epic... and awesome looking, is meh, however, it creates the opportunity for some awesome progression past max level / and customization and individual RP... if you can make it your own and get a good RP story out of it too, that's awesome too imo.

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As a Death Knight, I feel like I have the most creative freedom available to me here in the form Runeblades. The trick would be to distinguish this new one somehow and working out those specifics is where I'm stuck.
Not to mention, Catilyn is a second generation Death Knight and I've had some difficulty researching the exact differences between the creation and nature of Runeblades wielded by the different generations.

See, while I have some ideas of my own to reference Catilyn's past through a personal Runeblade of her own; it might simply be more practical for her to seek out a new Runeblade of power (If binding herself to a new Runeblade is even possible for a 2nd Generation). which, Kexti; is making me feel really tempted to use one of your suggestions - especially given it's proximity to Duskwood and thus, Eternal Aegis' home base before Darkshire is IC'ly overrun by Legion forces.

Infact, the lore you posted for it even ties in with a current storyline plot with Catilyn that's going on at the moment where she is being hunted by a group of renegade Silver Hand members of unknown origin. Perhaps this "Liam Mircave" could be the one pulling the strings - or rather, former Paladins that were under his service, covertly sneaking into Darkshire while it's protectors are distracted by the contstant flow of Demons in an attempt to try and recover the weapon for their own. This could make for an interesting conflict.

Amen was originally designed to fight the Undead but the exact way it did this is open to interpretation. I like to imagine that, as a Blood Artifact Weapon, the potency of the magic contained within the Runeblade is one that taps into the Necromancy that sustains the Undead form as a way of using their perpetual, corrupted lifeforce against them and since the Undead are a byproduct of the Lich King - Kil'jeaden's creation - this makes me consider the possible similarities between Necromancy and Fel Magic. Because of this, it doesn't sound too far fetched to think that the Runeblade's potency would extend to Demons as well.

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Amen

“And if you can’t stop shaking/Lean back let it move right through ya (Hallelujah)”

It is no small occurrence for a death knight to have been a former paladin, but few use the same weapon in life as the one they held in death. Amen belonged to a human paladin named Liam Mircave, who was as devoted to the Holy Light as they came.

Born to noble origins, Liam strove to overcome the greed and politicking that accompanied his family, and left behind his inheritance to fight the evils of the Scourge. He commissioned, using what money he managed to scrape together before announcing his intentions to the family Matriarch, a runed axe designed to slay undead.

The runes were easily converted to symbols of the Scourge by Ymirjar smiths, and Amen became Liam’s tool of inquisition against the ranks of the undead, in a strange parody of the Scarlet Crusade he hated in life. By culling the duplicitous and strong of will from the ranks, the automatic utterings of final judgment became a part of the weapon’s fearsome reputation; his will broken, his mind all but gone, Liam still managed to say “Amen” as he cut dissidents down.

Like most death knights left in Icecrown Citadel, Liam never broke free of the Lich King’s control, but his weapon was returned to his family in Duskwood.

 

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I agree that Felonius would not use the same weapons that everyone else has, so I have them mogged into more common-looking daggers. On the other hand, as a blacksmith, he is very interested in crafting a legendary weapon of his own... or possibly attempting to remake an existing legendary. Currently, he is obsessed with the old legends of the Black Blade, a cursed sword of immense power. He believes that if he can learn how it was made, he can craft a set of daggers of similar power. The problem is that if he uses Dark Iron to do so, he risks the corruption that Dark Iron instills. Another possibility is that the daggers too will be cursed in the same way that the Black Blade is. The Black Blade idea was inspired by the Blue Oyster Cult song of the same name.

I noticed that although the song has nothing to do with WoW lore, its story does apply to most sword-wielding classes:

Black Blade by Blue Öyster Cult https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCxL3-Fl7bM )
 
I have this feeling that my luck is none too good
This sword here at my side don't act the way it should
Keeps calling me its master, but I feel like its slave
Hauling me faster and faster to an early, early grave
And it howls, it howls like hell
 
I'm told it's my duty to fight against the law [Rogue]
That wizardry's my trade [Mage/Warlock] and I was born to wade through gore [Warrior]
I just want to be a lover, not a red-eyed screaming ghoul [Death Knight/Demon Hunter]
I wish it'd picked another to be its killing tool
Black blade! Black blade!
Forged a billion years ago
Black blade! Black blade!
Killing so its power can grow
 
There's death from the beginning to the end of time
And I'm the cosmic champion and I hold a mystic sign
[Paladin/Priest]
And the whole world's dying and the burdens mine
And the black sword keeps on killing 'til the end of time
Black blade! Black blade!

Bringing chaos to the world we know
Black blade! Black blade!
And its using me to kill my friends
Black blade! Black blade!
Getting stronger so the world will end
Black blade! Black blade!
Forcing my mind to bend and bend
The black blade

Forged a million billion years ago
My cosmic sword goes on for eternity
Carving out destiny
Bringing in the lords of chaos
Bringing up the beasts of Hades
Sucking out the souls of heroes
Laying waste to knights and ladies
My master is my slave
Ha ha ah ha ah ha!
Songwriters: E Bloom / John Trivers / Michael Moorcock
Black Blade lyrics © Sony/ATV Music Publishing LLC

The story of Felonius' obsession with the Black Blade, and addiction to Dark Iron Residue, begins here:

http://wow-tng.org/forums/topic/21619-a-rogues-workbook-felonius-t-gallows/#comment-397568

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I think I've made a decision on the blade... and its name and appearance... looking for feedback on the story... and if it makes sense... also the name... that was the hardest part...

 

It will be the Red Version of the Corrupted Ashbringer. ( I'm at work so I can't upload any sort of pic of it, but its glorious )

 

It was crafted with a Legion artifact found on the broken shore... and after spending SO MUCH TIME AND OVER 2000 Casts Im never switching... or fishing again...

 

I'd also like to say... efff you Blizzard Designer that made me do that tedious nonsense... efff u. Mainly because some people got it in 30 casts and cant understand the pain.( Even tho I do love things that seem "tougher" to get.  Now before I derail my own post... ahem

 

The Dawnbreaker - Light of Lordearon

The Former Scarlet Crusader, Sir Russell Cavanaugh of Brill, current Legate of the 9th Legion while assaulting the Broken Shore with the Alliance Expedition led by King Varian Wrynn happened upon a fel infused artifact from one of the slain demons that fell just before the crusader watched in horror as Highlord Tirion Fordring was slain. He tucked it into his satchel for further study, after all, who had not known about how the Ashbringer itself was created? Furthermore... he was a student of history and a rather accomplished Archeologist, accumulating many trinkets during his years of fighting from Lordearon, Outland, Northrend, Pandaria and Draenor.

As a seasoned and accomplished Crusader he did not let this trinket simply lay on the ground and be buried beneath the bloodied sands of that hellish place. Placing it in his satchel it returned with him to Stormwind after the massive route of the Alliance and Horde forces.

Placing the trinket in the care of his finest priests, they attempted, without success, to purify the object. As the campaign in the Broken Isles unfolded the Paladin decided to take another path. Bringing the object to Trysteza, his attaché to the Ebon Blade, she was able to persuade the Deathlord to infuse the object with the necessary powers to be the basis for crafting a blade of immense power.

Remembering his time in the Fabled Order, he went back and met with the master blacksmith Jordan Stillwell, who maintained a residence outside of Ironforge. Commissioning the smith the fashion the artifact to a blade, he wanted to pay his respects to both Highlord Alexandros Mograine and Highlord Tirion Fordring. Crafting it in a similar mold, attempting to mimic the legendary blade, but also give this one its own character, the smith presented the Legate with the Dawnbreaker... the steel warped by the Legion artifact... taking on what can almost be said is a vile form.

A brilliant red L on the hilt paying homage to both the Paladins past membership of the Scarlet Crusade, his citizenship of Lordearon, and both righteous champions of the Light... and the sacrifices they have made. The inscription on the hilt reads "From Light comes Darkness, and from Darkness, Light."

Holding the blade, the Paladin can feel the raw power... and certainly what seems like a corrupt and evil presence within it... containing and channeling its power certainly is taxing... but it is necessary to deal with the foes that stand before the races of Azeroth.

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I was able to incorporate Viirchi's past lore with why she can use the light even after childhood circumstances into the creation of her weapon.

Mavis' is pretty much a sword that was used in the first war heroicly and then given to him by the local town drunk

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