Horde and Alliance stereotypes.

[Burgam]

Do you stereotype plyers depending on their faction? I know some common ones are Alliance only raid in groups because they're too pansy to fight alone, Horde always camp a body or run away if the enemy is at least 1 level higher than themselves unless with a group, Alliance is full of PvP kiddies, Horde are all hardcore gamers, Barrens chat is worse than Goldshire chat and vice-versa, and Horde players are more mature than Alliance players.

Add any others you know of and tell me if you believe in these stereotypes or not and why.

[Malebrignon]

Alliance PvE is EZ-mode.

Horde PvP is EZ-mode.

[Laron]

Talk about irony I was heading to SM with a group. One of my party broke from the group to chase down a Tauren and killed him. I aksed him why he was attacking that person. He replyed to me "He is of the horde and deserves to die." Okay here is the irony, we had to cross smack dab infront of Undercity, which is usually death. Well one party member went down, and when the ganker asked what happened I said to him "He must have been a part of the Alliance and deserved to die." My whole group went silent and didn't say a thing... I hate when people kill for no reason.

[Danyxandra]

Only stereotype I use is that horde has real ((RP)) events, and Alliance has tea-parties and fashion shows.

Throw veggies at me if you want. I'll just add them to the roasted dwarfie I be cookin'.

[Shadowspeak]

Do you stereotype plyers depending on their faction? I know some common ones are Alliance only raid in groups because they're too pansy to fight alone, Horde always camp a body or run away if the enemy is at least 1 level higher than themselves unless with a group, Alliance is full of PvP kiddies, Horde are all hardcore gamers, Barrens chat is worse than Goldshire chat and vice-versa, and Horde players are more mature than Alliance players.

Add any others you know of and tell me if you believe in these stereotypes or not and why.

Not sure about Alliance only fighting in raids.

Iv'e never heard the stereotype of horde camping. I never camp unless they did it to me, and I've never run from a fight unless im 1-outnumbered (3 or more) 2-if I'm low on mana/health 3- (when I wasn't sixty) if they were over 4 levels of myself, and it depends on what class.

Horde hasd a TON of PvP kiddies, and Alliance has more PvE kiddies.

Not all Horde are hardcore players... I honestly spend alot of time on WoW, but my good friend David who plays the game isn't hardcore. I know alot of people on Horde that don't play *hardcore*.

It is.

It's different for every server, but on ours, yes. Iv'e seen five cases of Alliance that have a second account so they can turn on horde and just mock people. Just a few days ago some guy named 'shit' came on horde and started bitching about "How bad Horde suck and were all n00bs". ALso Ikid, who spammed Orgrimmar for about an hour until the GM's finally stepped in (took them an hour, imagine that!). And yesterday, I had a 60 human priest get on her Horde toon to 'call me out' just because I did a /bye when I killed her. I believe that Alliance are less mature, yes.

Sorry about the extensiveness.

[Garbhan]

We dwarves don't have many of these 'tea parties' since it would just be us hanging around drinking.

We drink on the run.

[turen]

Only stereotype I use is that horde has real ((RP)) events, and Alliance has tea-parties and fashion shows.

Throw veggies at me if you want. I'll just add them to the roasted dwarfie I be cookin'.



Woah woah woah... why the hostility? I only know Regiment events, but they aren't the case. Promotion ceremonies, training drills, marches, scavenger hunts... the list goes on. Plus even out 'tea partyies' (which I prefer to call keggers) usually involve drunken boxing. I can't speak for the other guilds as I haven't been to one in some time (mostly because of my long leap of absence).

PS. If your really eating dwarf, get ready for a wicked case of indigestion. We are evolved from earthen, which formed from rock you know :lol:

[EnheilRas]

And yesterday, I had a 60 human priest get on her Horde toon to 'call me out' just because I did a /bye when I killed her. I believe that Alliance are less mature, yes.

That was Agh right?

The fool did it to me too.

I mocked him and the fact he hired some chinese guys to power Grind his priest to rank 14.

[Danyxandra]

PS. If your really eating dwarf, get ready for a wicked case of indigestion. We are evolved from earthen, which formed from rock you know :lol:

Yes, but most of you are self-marinated in so much ale that you be good and tender and tasty. As for hostility, it's always more fun to eat good game food that gives you a good hunt over domestic, tame, and bland meat.

[Kurohane]

And yesterday, I had a 60 human priest get on her Horde toon to 'call me out' just because I did a /bye when I killed her. I believe that Alliance are less mature, yes.

That was Agh right?

The fool did it to me too.

I mocked him and the fact he hired some chinese guys to power Grind his priest to rank 14.

As I find myself saying so often, it happens on both sides. There have been far too many times for me to even attempt to recount where I've killed a horde, only to have them whispering me a few minutes later on an Alliance alt. *shrugs*

I try to stay away from stereotypes on either side of the line. I only play Alliance because I personally prefer the races, lands and history. However, I have no qualm, OOCly, with Horde players.

Except the idiot this weekend at Akon, who attempted to prove the might of the Horde by closing our conversation with "Your mom's a horde". *sigh*

[Shadowspeak]

Yea it was. I told him "How could you possibly think I could beat you 1 vs 1 with no pots and all the grand marshal gear? And why are you being such a whore just because I did a /bye?" I had no clue he had someone grind him to 14, i'll have to use that as a weapon now. mindcontrol /em ftw!

[Tillna]

I hav eplayed horde and alliance

Alliance on TN are much more accepting.

and I can say "Hey, you should do this instead of that" and they say ok

Do that on horde?
heeeeeeeeeell no....
Probably different here. We have more intelligent people here I think
*Played horde on Lightning hoof*

[Shadowspeak]

I almost agree with ^^. last night I did a scholomance and the shaman would NOT HEAL. We didn't even do the whole instance because he never healed the entire time he just went DPS the whole time and caused us to wipe about, oh, seven times.

But on a raid it's different. Everyone followes the raid-leaders advice.

Edit: PvE raid that is. As Manus knows, none ever follow simple directions in PvP.

edit2: Woohoo revered.

[Xeran]

Alliance PvE is EZ-mode.

Horde PvP is EZ-mode.

QFT

I've played both sides to 60 now and I'm amazed at how members of either side can point to the other and say it's "EZ-mode." Some things are easier on one side over another. The Alliance version of the Ony Key quest is pretty easy compared to the Horde side (Horde side is more fun though, IMHO). Alliance also have an easier time getting to cooking recipies than the Horde (a big deal if you're a hunter trying to save a buck on pet food). On the flip side, the Horde's trip to the Eastern Continent is a cakewalk compared to the Alliance boat system. The Horde also have better flightpaths (Theramore to Auberdine, anyone?). Horde Druids kinda get screwed though - that's a long flight to TB from Moonglade.

Battlegrounds are no different. Horde can just jump into the North Tower through the window ... after crossing the bridge of death. (For the record, I don't think it's an exploit to get into the tower that way, it just means the Alliance needs to defend the tower. I've seen a couple hunters destroy anyone trying to get into the tower through the window).

I think the issue people have is that Blizz has done a great job to make the sides different. Why would the Horde build a base the exact same way the Alliance do. It would be more "fair" to make the bases identical, but it would be less true to the world of Azeroth. This isn't Quake 3, after all.

[Syreena]

Alliance have naked dancing elves on all their mailboxes. Horde don't...yet.


Horde = EZ-mode for PVP? I'm not so sure. On TN, Horde seem to win AV the most. On my old server, Alliance almost never lost AV.

[Tillna]

True...
I think we won AV last night when Just Pro went in.
I personally have only been to the horde end base once...

And best thing in a PUG is to take command and tell people what to do
"Rogue, sap %t and hunter lay down ice trap. I want an Aimed shot pull"

That works well

[Shadowspeak]

Alliance have naked dancing elves on all their mailboxes. Horde don't...yet.


Horde = EZ-mode for PVP? I'm not so sure. On TN, Horde seem to win AV the most. On my old server, Alliance almost never lost AV.

I almost wont que for WSG except for a chance to win once or, what I expect, loose three times so I can turn in "For great Honor". We do have it easy PvP, sort of. Alliance NEVER do PUG's in WSG and it makes me pissed. Pug vs PUG =Horde wins. They have a vent group with teir 1 and some teir 2 equipment along with the best weapons they can master, and we get one or two people in PvP gear and some 60's with greens who figure thell just PvP to get their gear out of the dirt. WSG is the ONLY thing Alliance usually win because they need to get a druid to run in and spam switching forms so he cant be slowed, along with the dumbass paladin ability. I can't even do anything now inside WSG because I get charged be about three warriors, and after I get one down some random paladin heals.

AV we usually win, but again, they can only win by organization and even if they do, we *usually* win.

AB we usually win even against an organized group. This is because you have to do something more than just run a damn flag from point A to point B. Alliance win sometimes

[Sanrin]

I find that while the alliance on TN can be immature, horde are around the same lines. Only problem is that the horde here tend to have bigger egos, so instead of going to a major city and shittalking alliance (which ive seen happen on more then a few occasions) they'll take it to the WoW boards, or find your ts/vent info and start blaring you there. They're all about the attention really.

But while the immature on this server are on a different level of immature, the genuine are really amazing. Ive found a lot of really decent horde players, nice guys who will bring in a priest to mind control you to find out where your next quest mob is to help you kill it. And likewise for the alliance, whom are very responsive when asked questions.

I also agree that TN is pretty much broken into Horde PVP, Alliance PVE when it comes to general feeling. Even from a role play aspect, most horde events revolve around killing while alliance plots focus on intrigue. Its the difference between Lord of the Rings on one side and the Da Vinci Code/Days of our Lives on the other...if that made any sense.

[Gavril]

AB we usually win even against an organized group. This is because you have to do something more than just run a damn flag from point A to point B. Alliance win sometimes

I beg to differ. We win Arathi because they never actually join it in full force.

I don't think I've lost an Arathi since I turned 50.

[Kaliera]

I also agree that TN is pretty much broken into Horde PVP, Alliance PVE when it comes to general feeling.

This is something that's boggled my mind for quite awhile. There are far more horde guilds that have made significant end game progression through end-game content (BWL/AQ, Rag farmed) than the alliance, yet they still dominate in the PvP aspect (Echelon, though I hate to say it, they know their stuff).

I'd be thrilled to see more of Just Pro in the battlegrounds, personally. I know I've seen a few of their hunters and paladins in pickup groups toting their tier 2s, and I -love- it. If more well-geared members of the alliance weren't afraid to step out of their 10-15 man teams, the alliance pickup groups would stand more of a chance against the horde pickups.




I beg to differ. We win Arathi because they never actually join it in full force.

I don't think I've lost an Arathi since I turned 50.

I'm about 50-50 in Arathi Basin as far as wins versus losses. If the alliance can coordinate, and they get the initial 3, it's almost a sure fire win. Paladins (well, the ones that actually put away the TuF once and a while and ditch the auto-attack) can last a loooooong time defending a node, giving their defense time to come in as backup. I love games like this, as it's strategics that tend to win the battles, either side. :)

[Aquizit]

AB we usually win even against an organized group. This is because you have to do something more than just run a damn flag from point A to point B. Alliance win sometimes

I beg to differ. We win Arathi because they never actually join it in full force.

I don't think I've lost an Arathi since I turned 50.


I've won a few ABs in the 50s bracket.. Tinkey and his usual group know their stuff, and they're not even Vent group. :P

[EnheilRas]

I've played both sides to 60 now and I'm amazed at how members of either side can point to the other and say it's "EZ-mode." Some things are easier on one side over another. The Alliance version of the Ony Key quest is pretty easy compared to the Horde side (Horde side is more fun though, IMHO). Alliance also have an easier time getting to cooking recipies than the Horde (a big deal if you're a hunter trying to save a buck on pet food). On the flip side, the Horde's trip to the Eastern Continent is a cakewalk compared to the Alliance boat system. The Horde also have better flightpaths (Theramore to Auberdine, anyone?). Horde Druids kinda get screwed though - that's a long flight to TB from Moonglade.

Alliance have better paths in the Eastern Kingdoms. All End-Game is one flight from Ironforge.

Thunder Bluff is the Hub of Kalimdor. More points can be reached from Thunder Bluff than any other point on the continent.


Battlegrounds are no different. Horde can just jump into the North Tower through the window ... after crossing the bridge of death. (For the record, I don't think it's an exploit to get into the tower that way, it just means the Alliance needs to defend the tower. I've seen a couple hunters destroy anyone trying to get into the tower through the window).

Alliance can ninja our aid hut with just two stealth characters and bypass the towers to attack Drek'thar.

[Burgam]

Wow, I've found that Horde actually PvPed less than Alliance when in the lower levels, like 10-29ish. For a while we totaly creamed horde until a major PvP guild came up like that new one that has Warsong in their name. I can't really remember it even though I hate it now that they increase the Horde wins in Warsong dramaticaly. There were a few before it that seemed to have broken up. Anyway, I also noticed alliance used to do more raids on citys and towns more than Horde, (at least from what I saw.) but now the Horde are pulling themselves together and constantly raiding Lakeshire, Goldshire, Duskwood, and other places close to Stormwind. Its amazingly easier to get into horde cities rather than Alliance cities, so I havn't seen any raids on Stormwind or Ironforge yet, but they may come soon.

[EnheilRas]

Wow, I've found that Horde actually PvPed less than Alliance when in the lower levels, like 10-29ish. For a while we totaly creamed horde until a major PvP guild came up like that new one that has Warsong in their name. I can't really remember it even though I hate it now that they increase the Horde wins in Warsong dramaticaly.

Warsong perfected; The First Twink Guild of the Horde.

You only did well because instead of PvPing in Pugs, your 60's just financed twinks.


There were a few before it that seemed to have broken up. Anyway, I also noticed alliance used to do more raids on citys and towns more than Horde, (at least from what I saw.) but now the Horde are pulling themselves together and constantly raiding Lakeshire, Goldshire, Duskwood, and other places close to Stormwind. Its amazingly easier to get into horde cities rather than Alliance cities, so I havn't seen any raids on Stormwind or Ironforge yet, but they may come soon.

Both Night Elf bosses have been killed by the Horde.

Darnassus has been completely destroyed by us. We've conquered it.

We're just doing one city at a time.

Also, you don't remember ol' Triton and the Redridge Monsters? You're too young.

You Alliance used to be AFRAID of going into Redridge and Duskwood. We had small, elite pvp guilds dedicated to roaming those zones.

[Chavie]

hhhhhhhhhhh

[Gannarak]

I'm impressed, no one mentionned undead or night elf rogues ! (or night elf hunters) They are usually the core of all stereotypes in world PvP >_>

I dont see a lot of all the stereotypes you mention, maybe I dont play enough, or usually hang out with Citadel folks only. Its great being in suuch a mature guild, the game is just plain better. I've had very few problems with group members taken with Thega though, its an awesome system.

J-

[Karkarov]

Actually horde have done tons of city attacks on alliance. I personally have been at two hits on stormwind and ironforge, one on darnassus, 2 on darkshire, more than I can count on astrannar and southshore, 3 on refuge point, and one on thelsamar. And I am not even that active into city raiding.

Other than the drizt crap I dont think there is any stereotype that is always true. But if I had a dollar every time I saw a dark skinned elf in an mmo of any kind duel wielding swords and or with a black panther pet and some version of the word Drizzt as thier name I would be very rich.