Nether Council Patrol

[Grisch]

The Nether Council ((a Horde side RP organization)) will be making regular patrols of various hotspots. The objective is to keep the peace and allow less-seasoned warriors to proceed without harrasment.

We will not initiate any hostilities against Alliance in the area who are peacably going about their business. Any who attack other horde or ourselves will however become targets. We will endeavor to assess the situation, and should our side be the agressor, we will not be assisting.

So far, the guilds Citadel, Sanctuary, The Immortalis and Crimson Wolves have been participating in the patrols. Should you see a group of these guilds walking calmly through Arathi, Hillsbrad, Stranglethorn, or any other hotspots, offer a friendly wave and move on. We're not there to make trouble.

We'd like to make it clear though, that while we won't be starting any trouble, we will however not hesitate to finish it.

[Daedraug]

The AWC tends to be a bit more...reactionary than that.

FYI: The Swordwaltzers and Order of Turalyon have been jointly patrolling similar hotspots for the last month or so on Sun nights. We also accept volunteers, but it is, in general, an RP event of sorts. Especially since the last few have been dead.

[Hifazat]

If you are seen in the Arathi Highlands, you forgo any sort of protection or amnesty. The Pointe has been underattack regularly and any horde seen there will burn in my wrath.

[Lupa]

The AWC tends to be a bit more...reactionary than that.

FYI: The Swordwaltzers and Order of Turalyon have been jointly patrolling similar hotspots for the last month or so on Sun nights. We also accept volunteers, but it is, in general, an RP event of sorts. Especially since the last few have been dead.

Oonagi was passed last night in Duskwood by Kurohane, although she was oblivious to her presence.. she was heading south towards STV.

Was that part of the patrol?

[Daedraug]

Yep :) Several other folks were noticed and dealt with. Almost all had previously attacked someone first, though.

[Karkarov]

For the record the Nether Council does not work with, and never will work with, any alliance organization. What individual members of the council do is up to them. But the council as a whole will not.

Also just to remind. We wont attack anyone unless we recieve reports of them causing trouble for the horde, or they attack us. Dont believe me? Ask Gloomberry how many times we killed him when we saw him in Ashenvale. Also we wont attack towns. Unless a coward who attacks us or the local horde members flees into one. If such happens, dont think we will be afraid to do what is neccessary to give them thier due.

[EnheilRas]

If you are seen in the Arathi Highlands, you forgo any sort of protection or amnesty. The Pointe has been underattack regularly and any horde seen there will burn in my wrath.

I've seen both you and Jerone in the Valley, filth. Your allegience to the Stormpike Armies has broken my Allegience with "Sir Trollbane."

Trol'kalar is up for grabs.

[Lovely]

If I ever see you roaming around, and I'm not busy, I may join you. After all, someone needs to warn the Alliance that you are not there to cause trouble.

[Gloomberry]

So I really don't have to hide behind Raene the level 60 (Elite) in Astranaar everytime I see your patrol? Yay.

[Karkarov]

Actually for the record on that last astraanar patrol. There was in fact a orc (I think) in the area attacking astranaar guards, which is also why we didnt support him when he was attacked because we realized he started the fight. Grisch could likely confirm more my memory is a bit foggy last week being three lifetimes ago. But the actual council group never attacked a town guard, or entered Astranaar on that patrol.

[Lupa]

If I ever see you roaming around, and I'm not busy, I may join you. After all, someone needs to warn the Alliance that you are not there to cause trouble.

That might be something to consider, although it might also backfire. Shades of Lovely the Prisoner redux....

[Kaylim]

I have actually been on the "bad side" of this Nether Council patrol. I was near Refuge Point when I was killed by two Horde. I immediately, called in a friend to help deal with them. We dealt with them firmly. Not long after, they called in a much stronger friend, tracked us down and killed both of us. Once again I called in two more friends to handle the three now.

To make a long story short, the NC patrol shows up and "deals with" the alliance that were merely defending themselves. You say the NC patrol will not patrol with the Alliance... Then it is doomed to be a one side affair of retribution for those defeated justly. I daresay you can not prove other wise. Without proper leader from both sides..you're patrol is merely a witch hunt.

Kaylim

[Grisch]

Kaylim, so far there has been only one patrol in the Refuge Point area. Moving into the area we immediately got a report from a L30 being attacked by two seasoned Alliance (L60s) (were you perhaps one of these?).

We engaged and took down the two aggressors. Soon after they managed to return and headed for refuge point. We pursued. En route we encountered a lower season (L40) Gnome who appeared peaceable and was left alone.

We moved up to Refuge Point. The two we were in pursuit of hid behind their gaurds, periodically stepping forward to throw spells and insults at us.

They may at this point have been joined by other Alliance who had recently arrived and were no doubt told some fable about how we had brutally attacked them for no reason whatsoever.

After much discussion, it was decided that they needed to understand that A) they weren't safe hiding behind their guards and B) that kind of cowardice and disrespect would not be tolerated.

Karkarov lead the charge. Both of the initial trasngressors were targetted and eliminated. After this we moved back to patrolling.

Not sure where you fitted in, but I'd be very interested to know.

[Karkarov]

I will add one other little thing. When we went to assist these devilishly aggressive horde... there was only two of them, and neither was high level. And the two alliance "defending" themselves were level 60 and corpse camping. So frankly I have no clue what you are talking about.

[Aquizit]

I'm curious.. what are your actions when it comes to say... a hordie near Nessingwary's who's... say lvl 38, and sees your patrol, and attacks an Alliance who's lvl.. erm.. 45 or so, and the Alliance member kills says horde? ... The Alliance guy was merely defending himself, does your patrol get involved since it was initiated by the hordie?

[Grisch]

This has happend in the past, and no, we do not get involved.

It's one of our biggest problems, the 'lol PWNZORZ LOLOL!!11" l33t kiddie who thinks we're obviously there to gank everything and attaches himself to us. We warn them once off that we're not looking to start trouble, and if he insists on it, we leave the Alliance to take care of him, without our assistance. Unfortunately there is little more we can do about it.

In fact, we are also willing to assist Alliance lowbies in the area who are being overwelmed by local wildlife. We have to be carefull though, one Ravager prock, or an unfortunate cone of cold and we've just ganked someone. Plays merry havoc with inter-faction relations.

[Grisch]

May 15 Patrol Report
Area: Hillsbrad Foothills and Arathi Highlands.

Members of the patrol met in Tarren Mill where we began to get organised for the task ahead. Shortly after landing however we were notified of a hunter in the area preying upon our unseasoned warriors. It turned out to be the dwarf Tatarin, who's two primary skills appear to be A) killing horde at least 30 seasons below his own and B) running very swiftly in the opposite direction of any horde close to his own experience. Usually directly towards Southshore where he will cower behind guards, offering the odd spell and rifle shot to anyone who gets in range.

As we didn't want to turn the patrol into a town invasion, we left the area after a short engagement. Said engagement was the unfortunate result of some losing their control and charging into the town after the hunter and his newfound friends. Unfortunately due to a lack of co-ordination, we were beaten back, and used the opportunity to regroup in Tarren Mill, resuming the patrol.

A short while after regrouping reports once again came in of younger warriors in the nearby mine being slaughtered by a dwarven hunter. We moved to the area, administered some swift justice upon the now familiar Tatarin, and once again, moved on. At this point the hunter decided to follow us at range, bouncing around on his ram like an overweight, wooly, rabbit. His attempts to communicate with us were met by silence.

Growing more and more bold as we ignored him, he took an aimed shot at Sanctuary member Aloivia, likely due to the fact that she wore only cloth armor. It was at this point that the entire patrol descended on him and turned him into what resembled a small charred kodo burger with oddly shaped shoulder armor.

Moving onto Arathi the patrol went without incident. Halfway through our return leg, word came in of Alliance killing our men in the yeti cave near Tarren Mill. We sped up and the majority of us arrived on the scene to find one of our patrol members, Clys, dispatching of a Warlock and a Paladin who had taken the opportunity of our absence to once again target our unseasoned ones.

It truly saddens me to see one who wields the light, stooping to such dishonor. Perhaps the association with his demon summoning friend had tainted him in some manner. I doubt we will ever know.

The patrol was successfull, and I hope that in that time we brought a small amount of peace and order to those troubled regions.

[Aquizit]

The Regiment will be making a similar patrol tomorrow night.. (My Lieutenant has organized this.) And being commanding officer, I will make sure the same honor is upheld as your patrol showed this evening. You have my word as a soldier. -Salute.-

[Kaylim]

I can shed alot of light on the Refuge Point incident, as I was there from beginning to end. Even fought the NC patrol at RP, albeit from behind much stronger guards/alliance. This is more of a ooc post than my first one. I would like it understood that I hold no animosity toward the patrol at all. I just wish to make a point about a Patrol that alliance is not included in.

The whole incident started near the Manor where I was fighting the stealthing guys. 3 Horde roll up and roll me when I engage the syndicate(?)..I was lvl 38 at the time. These 3 were also around that level. I rez behind a bush and don't see them. So I figure it's just a random roll. I then set out for RP...enroute I encounter them again. Rolled. :) This time I"m camped for 2 more deaths. There were no allies around to help me out of this situation. Finally, they let me rez and I get on my way.

When I get to RP I see some iron just waiting to be mined right near the northern entrance. I believe the 3 Horde were fighting at the farm nearby and saw me mining when they left. End result..dead. :) Well, I did not want to be killed by these three all night, so I asked my RL bro, and his friend to come help me, as they were nearby. His friend was a 60 hunter, and my bro was 50 druid. It was agreed that for justice to be served these 3 should be killed 5 times. Which is the number of my deaths to them.

They found them near the farm again...farm is alliance by the way...not sure the name. Your patrol arrived on their death number 4..and killed both of them. They waited for a bit...rezzed near the farm..and killed the 3 the 5th time. Then they ran from your patrol into RP. It's then that other alliance arrived, etc. I would like to make clear that not one of us three threw any insults as there was no anger at all. As for spells...lol...definitely some of those thrown. :)

Sorry that was so long..but that's it from beginning to end! I believe the classes of the 3 horde were, druid, and 2 warlocks. Hope this clears a bit up.

At the end of the day my point is this: From a RP standpoint, Kaylim can not see how a Patrol can keep the peace when they'll always have only one side of the story. Include the alliance, or it's just a witch hunt in his eyes..and will not be acknowledged as authority..nor tolerated when used as a tool for others injustice.

Kaylim

[Lovely]

((I'll have to agree with Kaylim. Having seen it happen a number of times, it all comes down to "he said/she said" and thats that. Clys and I encountered this the other night near Terren Mill. My husband's level 35 mage was getting camped at the yeti cave while trying to quest, yet the horde alarm said the mage was ganking....and I was sitting there watching him get camped. I've seen this happen Alliance side too.

For this "Patrol" to work, you need reps from the Alliance side to come along too, but with our lack of communication, and the inability to attack our own faction, this will be very hard to pull off.))

[clys]

((But if we all talk and work things out, then who will we get to fight with? hehe ))

[Kaylim]

I think, just like in real life, people will always find others to fight with. lol :)

I would like to say this: Any patrol is better than no patrol. So if an alliance/horde patrol is not feasible..then an all horde or alliance one is the next best thing.

There are casualties in war...and it is not fair...so patrol on my horde brothers.

[clys]

*regards Kaylim for a moment*

I am NOT your brother.

*backstab*

*cackle*

[Grisch]

Please bear in mind that I am not speaking for the council here at all in the following post.

First off Kaylim, this does seem odd, I think you might have us confused with a different group. On the day of the Refuge Point incident, there was only one horde member being attacked (a citadel guild member). It should be fairly easy to verify this story with them and personally I would just like to know the truth.

Second, yes, I agree with Lovely and anyone else that says a one-sided patrol will never be fair. Unfortunately, Sanctuary has been attempting to find Alliance who are willing to patrol with them and has so far met either indifference or derission from any approaced on the matter.

Untill an Alliance group with similar interests is willing to put their petty hatreds aside and work with horde on something like this, there is not much more that can be done.

Lastly, Clys, there will ALWAYS be more people to fight, the last patrol should have proved that to you. ((failing that, at least if there were two patrols going, we could work out a get together for a good old ruck afterwards))

[Lovely]

Grisch, I would be happy to patrol with you.

/salute

[Kaylim]

Hmm...we could be talking about two different incidents. I know after the patrol, or group of horde, chased the hunter and druid (my bro and friend) to RP, I was there. I noticed Lupa among the horde and also Karkarov. Not sure if that helps much. I'm not sure what guild the 3 horde were a part of. Just know it was 2 warlocks, and a druid. One undead warlock, one orc warlock, one female tauren druid.

Hope this helps!

Ps..
No clys you are definitely not included in the "brothers" comment. You are merely an abomination that needs to find peace on the end of my sword. As are all undead..not singling you out. heh

[Hifazat]

Hmmm...when were you in Arathi? Because it seems the cry that went up in Hillsbrad might have been caused by myself and Genton. We killed around 10 to 15 horde between level 20 and 40. We attacked TM in response to 4 rogues attacking Southshore. However this was early in the evening. Between 5 and 7 pm.

[Grisch]

Hmm...we could be talking about two different incidents. I know after the patrol, or group of horde, chased the hunter and druid (my bro and friend) to RP, I was there. I noticed Lupa among the horde and also Karkarov.

I can say with almost certainty that if Lupa and Karkarov were there together it was the patrol. I was likely in the back somewhere healing.

If we did however make the error, then I apologise for myself (I cannot apologise for the others). It will unfortunately not be the last, untill both sides present unified patrols who are in communication with each other.

[Lupa]

Having read through this entire tale, I have to admit that indeed that was our patrol that is being talked about.

The Citadel member that raised the alarm to us, Okhru, is indeed an orc warlock. The two Alliance we were 'told' were the culprits were a lvl 60 hunter and 50 druid, so really all the evidence is there and Kaylim's version of events fits with what we experienced.

Its unfortunate we weren't in the loop for the 'whole' story. As in RL, there are always 2 sides/versions to a conflict and the truth is somewhere in the middle.

Having an Alliance 'liaison' along for patrols, if for no other function than to query targets we point out and "nod" or say "no" would be helpful, but I admit it would be hard to get right. I would volunteer in an instant for any Alliance patrol who wants a Horde "liaison".

In the end, I hope at least the PvP action at Refuge Point was fun for both sides..

[Kaylim]

I, indeed, had a very good time! And so did my bro and his friend! :)

[Lovely]

((Someone PM me if you want to, and let me know when the next one is. I'd be happy to try and make it.))

[Hifazat]

Btw I just feel like saying this, If i come across a bunch of horde in Arathi, I will assume it is a warband. Typical IC reaction.

Depending on my players mood and how many people have pissed him off that day, i could either call in for an attack or demand you leave Arathi. I just want to give you a heads up on that.

[Lupa]

Btw I just feel like saying this, If i come across a bunch of horde in Arathi, I will assume it is a warband. Typical IC reaction.

Depending on my players mood and how many people have pissed him off that day, i could either call in for an attack or demand you leave Arathi. I just want to give you a heads up on that.

Noted.. :wink:

[Grisch]

((Lovely, thanks for your offer, I really like the idea. Let me check with the boss and the boss's boss.

*Goes off to pester Karkarov: "But puhweeeeeeze Karkarov! Can we keep her?"*))

[Mortica]

*Goes off to pester Karkarov: "But puhweeeeeeze Karkarov! Can we keep her?"*))

She goes anywhere near Karkarov's non-pink shirt, and I will drop whatever I'm doing and kill her myself. I don't care if I'm in MC or BWL or fishing in Azshara.

*nods*

[Karkarov]

Well .... Clys has certain controls over Lovely as do I. *tumbles an oft forgotten enchanted human index finger bone in his palm*

I can not deny Grisch and Lupa this request since it Is reasonable....

Muahahahahahaha.... Though I must say Mortica's company would not be dissmissed either. *Karkarov gives a very slow slithering grin in Mortica's direction*

((Remember boys best way to get the women is get them jealous and in a catfight, it works every time!))

[Mortica]

*glares*

whatthehellareyoudoingwithherdamnfingerboneyoucraz yforsaken!

and I won't be baited, either :P

[Karkarov]

Are you sure you wont be baited Lady Mortica? *scratches his chin contemplating the coming patrols*

You know with this relic I can bend Lovely to my will and make her do .... anything.... *winks suggestively* ((note I cant really but give a guy some creative license))

*puts on his best Patrick Stewart look*

Remember Mortica I will need you at the patrol to "make it so".

*the grin slides back into place more mischevious than usual*

[Mortica]

no, I won't be baited.

you have been warned.

*sharpens her swords*

((

*puts on his best Patrick Stewart look*

Remember Mortica I will need you at the patrol to "make it so".

*head-desks IRL*
))

[Lovely]

((Hehe <3))

[Lupa]

If she comes, thats fine. I want every male patroller to take some Salt Peter though..

I won't die because you're distracted by bouncing pink bosom.... :wink:

[Aquizit]

I was almost mad tonight.. but I guess any time an Alliance charges over a bridge in STV it's a free meal...

Thanks for the apology though Grisch, and the love-taps as you guys left through your portal. -Salute.-


~Pylith Thunderfist
Captain, Grimsilver Company
Ironforge Regiment

[Mortica]

((sorry about that pylith...you came through right after we were attacked by some alliance, and people still had battle rage going. I apologised too ^^))

[Grisch]

Aye, my apologies Pylith. Today was a larger than normal patrol and a bit un-scheduled. Everyone was edgy as we'd had some Rooks arrive and attack us outright.

I'll arrange some Dark Moon Reserve in apology. /wink

-Grisch

[Aquizit]

Mmmmm... Darkmoon... you know us dwarves have a soft spot for strong ale~

[Soraxis]

What?! So my staff didnt crit you for 1337^2 and instakill you? Damnit...

[Karkarov]

Case of wrong place at wrong time. We were saying in the vent not to attack you and in the raid channel. We had just been attacked by two 60 paladins right before you arrived. I think we were just finishing the last one as you got there. I can be sure because at the start they double teamed me and then Chum and since we didnt attack first and we were spread we had bad response time and we were killed before we could really get a counter attack going.

All that aside it was in error on our part and as leader of the council I apologize on our behalf.

[Aquizit]

I figured that's what it was.. I mean.. I just came charging into the middle of you guys on my ram just over the bridge.. so I understood, really. But geez for a bunch of 60s it took you guys awhile to kill me. ;)


I also scolded the Rooks trio a little when I ran into them, but.. -shrugs- To each their own eh?