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Hifazat
05-09-2006, 12:14 PM
I have tried to play Hifazat as I intended the character to be played, only to learn I pissed off players OOC wise due to my in character comments. Firstly it was my guild and then afterwards players outside.
So here is the jist of my character. Hifazat is dogmatic in his views in life and doesn't tolerate what he considers stupidity or anything he does not like.
The best way to describe hifazat is take him as a Chechnyan freedom fighter or a genocider in Rwanda. Consider him a mix off both above and add in the feelings and emotions of a Bosnian muslim during the Serbian genocide.
Hifazat belives in one thing. The horde are evil to their core and all must be killed. This is not an insane issue. It is an issue of hatred and being dogmatic. It is a decision made by choice.
Hifazat has chosen a side. The alliance. Thus everybody on the other side is not worthy of anything and must be eradicated. On other issues, Hifazat believes the alliance is innately weak because it can not stand up for itself or take actions for a just outcome.
It is basically the debate do the ends justify the means. Hifazat thinks all actions taken if the end goal is met are justified. So anybody who is not willing to take the supreme actions for the over all goal is a weakling and Hifazat has little respect for them and thus in turn the alliance.
Additionally, Hifazat acts and speaks in a manner to insult, degrade and cause offense because he believes the weak should be dominated and if possible controlled. Anybody who does not stand up for themselves deserves the way Hifazat treats them.
I hope this all is taken into consideration when I do post in the RP thread on the battle in Splintertree. I mean no offense to anybody, but Hifazat has nothing nice to say about the battle.
Kurohane
05-09-2006, 12:18 PM
Sounds like this will be a juicy post, then. Looking forward to it!!
Garbhan
05-09-2006, 12:29 PM
Aww! You're jus' a happy wee Warlock aintcha! Yes you are! *Pinches cheek*
On a more serious note, I think you do a rather good job of rping Hifazat. I've done something similar and it's really not easy to stay true to the character and... have people that want to talk to you. Well played, mortal.
Hifazat
05-09-2006, 01:04 PM
Lol. I am just the happiest warlock alive :D
I have posted my views on the matter in a rather longish post. Again no OOC ill will felt from myself. Its just that Hifazat ....is well he is Hifazat :D
EnheilRas
05-09-2006, 01:04 PM
Gosh..
it's a human me..
Nice Sipah
Garbhan
05-09-2006, 01:23 PM
I dunno, that arguement of yours seems perfectly reasonable to me. After all, the Horde respect strength. None of thise nancy Stormwind nobility hubbub. Burn it to the ground!
Hifazat
05-09-2006, 01:29 PM
Lol. A human you...not sure how to take that Manus :p
Bah dnn't call Hifazat reasonable, he won't like that :p
Xeran
05-09-2006, 01:31 PM
I've always taken Hif's comments in-game as in character and, while they offend Xeran, I have no problem with them OOC.
And, for the record, Elbert (my alt) is the happiest warlock alive. He can't understand why his remodeling efforts in SW receive so much scorn, but people will feel better once that stupid and inefficient tavern in Old Town gives way to the "Elbert Memorial Foot Massage Parlor and Billiards Room."
"This, Juk'thor is the outer wall of the Keep. Notice it's sense of history, it's grandure and awe. Also notice that it will be vital in containing the blast radius when we hollow out the Keep to make way for the new market center. We wouldn't want citizens walking through the Gnomeregan Walk of Inventors being showered with rubble, now would we?"
Abric
05-10-2006, 01:37 AM
Hm.
In a perfect world, actions and direction would need no explanation.
Unfortunately, we do not live in a perfect world. We live in a fantasy world that we take to the next step - by immersing ourselves in it and playing a character that lives in it.
You, like many others, have decided to play a type of character that is extremely difficult to pull off - the extremist.
Nobody likes an extremist... because they are on the far left/right of a topic. Things are black and white to them, not grey or shadey. You are either right or wrong, with him or against him... a valued ally or a most hated enemy.
Within the world we play in (MMO/internet/fakeland/bewbie town/whatever), it is hard to be an extremist. The majority of people do not like them, because they upset the balance and are a constant curveball. With an extremist around, you cannot just sit and have fun and let things go idly by. In this case, if an opposing faction member goes past you... there is NO leeway on what you must do - they die. You don't think about it, you don't imagine yourselves in that persons shoes... they die and you carry on. Were they questing? Logging? Perhaps engaging in some RP? Who gives a rats ass... you are an extremist - and they DIE. Sure, they are a player on their side of the screen, but we aren't playing as two dudes in Buffalo. We're playing an extremist and their enemy - an unsuspecting victim and the hand of righteous justice.
But... it MUST be remembered that, regardless of what you play, you ARE playing. When you take that step past that invisible line - it's hard to take that step back.
Suggestion? Don't compare yourself to real world events. If you would of told me what you wrote to my face... it wouldn't be pretty. Not because it was offensive to me or somehow degrading... but because if I didn't do it then somebody who would want to do more may overhear you say that one day.
Put yourself in the shoes of the GAME. You aren't <fill in the blank in the real world>, you are <situation that happened in the game>. This will help you in making certain that your actions and your words and phrases are tied into things people can understand via the game - not real life. This is essential when playing an extremist.
Heh, and sometimes you have to ensure that there is a distinct difference between the character and the player. While overtime it may affect your roleplay (people will think your character is TOO much like the player they speak to), it is better than the alternative... you having to actually explain your character in a post similar to this.
And remember... the extremist never has to "explain" himself. He "tells" it how it is - since there is no room for debate.
AbricOOC
~DOOM!
EDIT: Spelling. It's 0241 in the morning, leave me be, I say!
Aquizit
05-10-2006, 03:27 AM
Hifazat's a real nice person actually.. the player anyway.. we chat on Vent occasionally as I curse loudly about how things are getting so screwed up.
:D
Fallacy
05-10-2006, 07:45 AM
Okay, so, basically, he's exactly the opposite of Fallacy.
It is like palestinians and israelis hating each other.
And I really don't like this saying. I know people from both sides, many as close friends, and the idea perputrated by the media that this is true is bull. I'd like to ask that you'd remove it.
Hifazat
05-10-2006, 12:20 PM
Fallacy I will remove as you ask, but I certainly do not agree with you. The hatred is very real and is not played up by the media. Rather it is played down in my opinion. But I shall remove it regardless. In the same way I will remove the reference to Pakistan and India.
On to Abric's comments. The issue here is cultural relativism. The examples I give are not examples of extremists at all. I would certainly not qualify a Bosnian during the war as an extremist after what happened in screbenica. Neither would I qualify an israel as an extremist after Munich. The view points of the both of this imaginative people are very valid and have justification.
The reason I used these real life stereotypical examples is because they convey exactly what i want to say in a matter of seconds rather than typing out a post of 3 or 4 pages detailing my view point on every little thing.
To be very honest the only reason I wished to explain myself in this post is because this is a US server, and i know that my character would get a lot of flak for his view points, considering they are in many ways directly opposite of what US culture has instilled in its society.
If you would of told me what you wrote to my face... it wouldn't be pretty. Not because it was offensive to me or somehow degrading... but because if I didn't do it then somebody who would want to do more may overhear you say that one day.
As for that. I don't mind what you said. I am not sure how to put this subtly so i shall be direct. If you find these opinions offensive, don't step outside of US or Western Europe, the rest of the world has opinions much worse than what i have stated.
Mortica
05-10-2006, 01:04 PM
alright..any more OOC debates will toss this thread in the inferno forum.
Remember to debate the opinions and idea, not the people behind them. You have to respect other people here, even if you disagree with them.
EnheilRas
05-10-2006, 03:39 PM
or I will kill you.
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