Gotta say it one more time...

[Chingaso]

[Nancy Kerrigan voice]Why? Why? Why? Why?[/Nancy Kerrigan voice]

Why have you done this to us Blizz? There are already more Horde than Alliance. The models are cooler, the quests more interesting; why did you have to give us Blood Elves?

Alliance players everywhere are either moving or deleting their Alliance toons so they can start a Blood Elf. The Horde will be completely over-run. And the griefers will dance naked on the mailboxes.

What's the deal? Was ~$100 Million a month not enough?

[Mel Gibson voice]GIMME BACK MY HORDE!!![/Mel Gibson voice]

[Tirdisar]

Because we are the superior race. Deny us and die.

[Melairina]

I think the eredar look like a cool race to play actually. =/

[Aquizit]

I saw the starting stats for Belves and Draenei today..

Draenei warriors can snap their fingers and shit would fall down dead.. their starting strength for a warrior is like 28..


MEanwhile.. a belf mage has like 27 int..

[Chingaso]

I think the eredar look like a cool race to play actually. =/
That's the problem! Hello!!!

Sorry to be an "elitist prick" or whatever, but the Alliance can keep their "pretty race" players. For the most part, they're the kind that will kill you while you fish, spam the /yell with "L OV EY OU" and DANCE NAKED ON THE MAILBOXES!!!

At this point, I'm getting the expansion for the content, not the freakin' elves. And Chingaso IC will be rude and abusive to them until he finds a reason to not be.

[Morgauth]

Perhaps once the entire server is Horde, we can actually RP without the stupid language barrier? LOL... but who will we fight? There's still gotta be a few gnomes, right? And a couple dwarves, or something? Oh well, I guess if everyone goes Horde then it'll be just like a PvE/RP server! haha!

[Raene]

Because we are the superior race. Deny us and die.

hehe :D

[Leyujin]

The superior race is hopelessly anorexic and albino (nevermind the white hair or pink eyes), replete with grotesque anime-style or emo hair cuts? Apparently the Aryans were the superior race, look at where they've ended up now.

Look, I don't mind elves, but having long ears doesn't give you a free ticket to being an over-inflated sniggering mannequin. Especially when I can break your back with one hand across my knee, and dance better than you. I think it's pretty pathetic that Blood Elves went from semi-tragic, fairly likable anti-heroes in Warcraft 3 to the completely overdone, stereotypical pretentious arrogant holier-than-thou personas that I can see every time I look at one of a million night elves, except now you're apparently giggling evil rather than noble tree-huggers. I've never understood how simply having long ears as a human makes you inherently beautiful, strong, wise and good, and how all those things are connected.

[Ephram]

I love you Chingaso, and I too hate what I think Blood Elves are going to do game population balances.

Dreani (spelled it wrong) v.s. Blood Elves in a contest of cool factor?

Thats like running my grandma against Laura Croft. I mean, Grandma is great, don't get me wrong, but I've yet to catch her dual-wielding Desert Eagles against the undead.

[Tirdisar]

You know, I would respond seriously to this, but the thread would have to be moved to the Inferno section first, because some people are too caught up in what they want from the game and are trying to insult others because of it.

[Hellista]

My paladin Ehlina will be a warrior for the cause of the blood elves everywhere. She is no nonsense, and if an orc or troll give her trouble she will throw it right back at them. No dancing on mailboxes, no flirty talk, nothing like that.

Hellista on the other hand, will be dancing naked on the mailbox in Org the first chance I get, in character. OOC it is just my way of paying homage to Enheilras.

I also plan to make a Draenei on this server, because I think they look damn cool.

[Chingaso]

You know, I would respond seriously to this, but the thread would have to be moved to the Inferno section first, because some people are too caught up in what they want from the game and are trying to insult others because of it.
Please explain this.

[Melairina]

I think the eredar look like a cool race to play actually. =/
That's the problem! Hello!!!

Sorry to be an "elitist prick" or whatever, but the Alliance can keep their "pretty race" players. For the most part, they're the kind that will kill you while you fish, spam the /yell with "L OV EY OU" and DANCE NAKED ON THE MAILBOXES!!!

At this point, I'm getting the expansion for the content, not the freakin' elves. And Chingaso IC will be rude and abusive to them until he finds a reason to not be.

Perhaps my point of view is just different here. Understand I've been playing for a long time, and I have good time investment in BOTH factions. there are advantages and disadvantages to both factions, but the maturity level of both sides seem to be more or less the same in my opinion and I truely believe that. It's so easy to look at the other side and just generalize about them. I dunno, all I look at is the stats and racials anymore, flight paths, types of cities and the like. maturity level, they are nearly the same.

and Chinagso, the other night I saw 3 lvl 1-2 female taurens whoring themselves out in orgimaar. 3 of them. I've seen lots of UD/Trolls dancing on mailboxes and in front of the AH. I've seen pleanty of times in a BG the horde going

A N A L
L O V E M E N U D E
A N A L
L O V E M E N U D E
A N A L
L O V E M E N U D E
A N A L
L O V E M E N U D E


the horde do it as much as the alliance

[Chingaso]

Yeah, but you're getting Draenai. Much coolness.

[Jobolg]

I like the Draenei, don't like the Blood Elves, but don't fault those who do for liking an inferior race. I'm sure these same people consider my race choices inferior.

Although when it comes to the Dranei, I do sorta wonder.. Why is it that the males have these massive, almost oversized upper bodies, while the females conform to natural beauty standards and actually look better than female elves despite the hooves?

[Crysa]

Well Chingaso, you can always pick on Crysa. She's only half sin'dorei.. the other half of her is human, so she's double hate-worthy.

[Ephram]

In reality, I am actually not to worried about the tsunami of Blood Elves we will be experiencing. Oh, it will happen, don't get me wrong, but that Tsunami will be a trickle by the time they all start reaching the Outlands.

Why? Well for one, I am guessing a HUGE percentage of the new Elves are going to be paladins. "The Horde with pallies? Finally! Oh I gotta be one." Riiiiight. Until they go and try to level it. Better yet, wait till they find out PvPing as a Pallie is almost as annoying as fighting one. It takes a special breed to be effective with a Paladin on a PvP server, and an even "specialer-er" breed to actually enjoy it.

Then there is the leveling in general. Its been a while since many a player has leveled to 60, much less 70. I am willing to bet many of them have forgotten how much it can royally suck.

All that and dollars to doughnuts I am will to bet they will be revamping at least some of the other race's racials. Maybe not at release, but soon.

[Melairina]

Although when it comes to the Dranei, I do sorta wonder.. Why is it that the males have these massive, almost oversized upper bodies, while the females conform to natural beauty standards and actually look better than female elves despite the hooves?

mating would be a challenge, I'm sure..

"I CRUSH YOU! <3"

[Ephram]

Although when it comes to the Dranei, I do sorta wonder.. Why is it that the males have these massive, almost oversized upper bodies, while the females conform to natural beauty standards and actually look better than female elves despite the hooves?

mating would be a challenge, I'm sure..

"I CRUSH YOU! <3"

Maybe thats what the tentacles are for...

Kinda makes you want to not be around a Dranei who's gonna sneeze.

[Tirdisar]

You know, I would respond seriously to this, but the thread would have to be moved to the Inferno section first, because some people are too caught up in what they want from the game and are trying to insult others because of it.
Please explain this.

Not really talking about you, more in response to what Leyu said, since it seems to me that he responded rather hot-headed to what I meant as a joke.

[Chingaso]

Ok, thanks.

[Fhenrir]

There are already more Horde than Alliance.

To quickly correct one thing, this is untrue at the moment.

Some servers (Twisting Nether being one) have a fairly balanced population, and there are a couple (very rare) servers that have more Horde than Alliance. However, MOST servers have more Alliance than Horde.

Infact, I originally came from Silver Hand, which to this day has a nearly 6 to 1 (maybe worse now, haven't been there in ages) Alliance to Horde ratio. The Night Elves outpopulated the Horde.

The sad truth? Most people don't want to play an "ugly" race, or a "monster". Many people are more comfortable playing a human or an elf, something they themselves find familiar or appealing.

They gave the Horde a "pretty" race and the Alliance a "monster" race to try and balance out the desperately hopeless servers where the Alliance can basically push the Horde around however they want, because there's just so damn many more of them.


EDIT: Also, fan demand for Blood Elves was huge. So they gave the fans what they wanted.

[Gavril]

Although when it comes to the Dranei, I do sorta wonder.. Why is it that the males have these massive, almost oversized upper bodies, while the females conform to natural beauty standards and actually look better than female elves despite the hooves?

Because they did that with basically every "ugly" Horde race pair.

[Thaena]

I've thought about switching to horde, but honestly I'm not ready to give up on the Alliance. I really don't think that either side is inherently better than the other, it's all a matter of community and personal preference. When I first came here the story that my husband and I had worked up for our mains was for alliance side ones, that's all. If I had thought up a better horde side story we would have played horde. I happen to think that the horde models are just as nice as alliance ones, though I can see where Fhenrir has a point about most people not wanting to play a monster.

On that note, my birthday is a week after BC comes out and there's a nasty rumor I might be getting a second account for it. If that's true then I'll certainly be rolling up a hordie here to facilitate some cross faction RP. I am my own worst enemy. :D

[Morgauth]

Definitely agree that both factions have good people, and both have bad. I play on both sides here on TN, and I have just as much fun on both sides. Lots of great RPers all over the place, and just generally nice people. For me it's more a matter of just enjoying playing an 'evil' character more. I find them more interesting to play. Actually my chars are never black and white evil or good, I always play the gray areas. It's just more fun to me. I like the BE's because they are elegant, snobbish, evil, which is one thing that WoW has been missing. It's all good, if you ask me. More is well...more.

[Leyujin]

You know, I would respond seriously to this, but the thread would have to be moved to the Inferno section first, because some people are too caught up in what they want from the game and are trying to insult others because of it.

Too caught up in what they want from the game? Not at all. What perplexes me is why people themselves are so drawn to what is essentially a human with long ears. Elves are an image of perfection that nearly always creates arrogance, and very rarely humility. I am talking here about fantasy stereotypes, as well as the comments often attached to elves by people themselves. Especially when all the people playing these characters are simply humans, it more than a little irritates me that so many people want to play a race that essentially encourages that type of mindset. At least three to four alliance players on this board have rerolled Horde to play blood elves, and I have yet to see a single character bio for a Draenei character. Apparently pretty and evil (or at least the pretty part) is far more attractive than ugly and good (and it's not like draenei females are even that ugly, it's just that "gasp" they have horns and hooves!). Elves are the worst incarnation of this, because they are the preconception made manifest that through physical perfection (and long ears), they are the culmination above and beyond what a human can ever achieve. That is the way they are almost always portrayed in fantasy of all kinds. Beauty is not truth, nor good nor power. I'd dare say nearly all the political and national leaders of the world are not beautiful, nor were Martin Luther King or Ghandi super models.

I particularly enjoy Terry Pratchett's elves because of their "orginality", which amusingly enough is simply based on mythology from what I know. You can never be as good as an elf, as beautiful as an elf, as smart as an elf... really? Then let me introduce you to iron.

Edit: If this post somehow drives this thread into Inferno, you are free to split it off and move it there. Although I sorta think this thread should have started in Inferno anyhow :?.

[Aquizit]

I have a draenei as well... just on Ravenholdt, not TN.

[Tirdisar]

You know, I would respond seriously to this, but the thread would have to be moved to the Inferno section first, because some people are too caught up in what they want from the game and are trying to insult others because of it.

Too caught up in what they want from the game? Not at all. What perplexes me is why people themselves are so drawn to what is essentially a human with long ears. Elves are an image of perfection that nearly always creates arrogance, and very rarely humility. I am talking here about fantasy stereotypes, as well as the comments often attached to elves by people themselves. Especially when all the people playing these characters are simply humans, it more than a little irritates me that so many people want to play a race that essentially encourages that type of mindset. At least three to four alliance players on this board have rerolled Horde to play blood elves, and I have yet to see a single character bio for a Draenei character. Apparently pretty and evil (or at least the pretty part) is far more attractive than ugly and good (and it's not like draenei females are even that ugly, it's just that "gasp" they have horns and hooves!). Elves are the worst incarnation of this, because they are the preconception made manifest that through physical perfection (and long ears), they are the culmination above and beyond what a human can ever achieve. That is the way they are almost always portrayed in fantasy of all kinds. Beauty is not truth, nor good nor power. I'd dare say nearly all the political and national leaders of the world are not beautiful, nor were Martin Luther King or Ghandi super models.

I particularly enjoy Terry Pratchett's elves because of their "orginality", which amusingly enough is simply based on mythology from what I know. You can never be as good as an elf, as beautiful as an elf, as smart as an elf... really? Then let me introduce you to iron.

Edit: If this post somehow drives this thread into Inferno, you are free to split it off and move it there. Although I sorta think this thread should have started in Inferno anyhow :?.

It was a -joke-. Not meant to be taken literally in any sense, IC or otherwise.

I've wanted to play a blood elf since WoW was first announced to be in development. Not because of how they look (hell, my second favorite race is Tauren), but because of the lore and how they're a huge part of the Warcraft franchise. Their beauty is simply a counterpart to their less than desirable traits, which wasn't even presented until the Sunwell exploded. Not only are they not evil (except from a RP standpoint), but, especially from Outland, they present themselves to be more redemptive (in reference to the Scryers) than those loyal to Illidan, especially since they are a race that has had a genocide attempted against them by nearly every single of those "lesser" races. Nevertheless, it has been something attributed to elves since Tolkien, but stereotypes have been, with Blizzard, always twisted and used to their own comical means, and that's what makes every race appealing to different people.

[Morgauth]

Long ears are hawt.

[Fhenrir]

I happen to think that the horde models are just as nice as alliance ones, though I can see where Fhenrir has a point about most people not wanting to play a monster.

I agree with you 100%. Infact, I personally find the Horde much more appealing than the Alliance (taurens are hawt). However, I was simply reciting one of the common reasons why the Alliance is generally more populated.

[Evanthe]

I -like- the Bloos Elves.

I think they are cool.

I think they fit in with the Horde just fine, albeit the Forsaken "branch".

One of the main reasons why I love the Horde is the intrigue between the races. In the alliance, everyone is freindly with every other faction member. But on the Horde? Not so much. The orcs, tauren and trolls don't really trust the undead, and vise-versa. This intra-fraction turmoil is more interesting to RP, for me, than tha alliance. I think Blood Elves will only add to this potential conflict. And in RP, conflict = fun.

[Danyxandra]

*readies a pole to smack Nancy in the leg*
Because I want bloodelves, dammit.

[Cedes]

I like the Draenei, don't like the Blood Elves, but don't fault those who do for liking an inferior race. I'm sure these same people consider my race choices inferior.

Although when it comes to the Dranei, I do sorta wonder.. Why is it that the males have these massive, almost oversized upper bodies, while the females conform to natural beauty standards and actually look better than female elves despite the hooves?



u get a racial heal that is like a free potion


bloodelves get a stupid mana burn for 30mana -_- and a 2sec silence -_- x2

[Gavril]

What perplexes me is why people themselves are so drawn to what is essentially a human with long ears. Elves are an image of perfection that nearly always creates arrogance, and very rarely humility. I am talking here about fantasy stereotypes, as well as the comments often attached to elves by people themselves. Especially when all the people playing these characters are simply humans, it more than a little irritates me that so many people want to play a race that essentially encourages that type of mindset.



I cut down the post because it was huge and didn't want to spam it; I think I might've cut out a point or two to which I will be responding, but ah well.

I think it was mentioned in another similar thread (By Fallacy, I believe), but the addition of blood elves as a playable race makes every bit of sense, for the fact that elves have been in WarCraft longer than Night elves and tauren. One thing I've noticed about the WarCraft universe is that it is SO generically high fantasy that it goes beyond that, and somehow becomes unique.

Maybe I'm just not seeing it, but the only real evidence of racial narcissism I've noticed is the posture of the female blood elf when she's standing still. Their speech doesn't reek of arrogance any more than most other races; in fact, it's very "vengeance" oriented. Which, of course, makes absolute sense.

Of course, at the same time, that's about as much as I've seen of the blood elves. So I can't really say much anything else until I play through the starting areas, and whatnot.

P.S.: My elf is going to be a vulgar, rude, inconsiderate, ugly-as-fuck asshole. =D

[Danyxandra]

What boggles me is that anyone would want to limit anyone else in their RP and character choices. You don't like bloodelves? Don't play one. Gavril has good points, by the way.

I don't see what's wrong with adding two new races with this expansion, and adding two more races with the next. And just because you aren't drawn to something doesn't mean it's wrong for other people to be. If so many people ARE drawn to them, what the hell is wrong with that? If you're the minority and you can't figure out what is "wrong" with the majority then maybe what's wrong isn't with them but with you?

Now I'm not saying there's anything wrong with you, Leyujin, but for cryin' out loud, I'm sick to death of the two years of people whining against bloodelves. They are popular, and there's a reason, and if you can't see why, then I'm sorry, but they are coming and you're either going to have to deal with it or stick your head in the sand.

[Orugasa]

I guess those who are not excited about starting a blood elf or a paladin are sick of hearing about it.
Perhaps that's why all the attitude is of late.

I know I'm worried I'll be in a town of 10,000 belfs and my homely self. And everyone will say, why didn't you start a blood elf?

I just want to level my character!!!!I'm ready for the expansion so the Alliance will get out of the areas I need to be in and quit killing me as they play their new Draenei or level to 70.

[Izrail]

Orc women aren't homely, I don't understand the attitude of orc women being ugly. For myself, I am excited about playing a blood elf and am excited about the challenges of playing against annoyed "old Horde" and annoying Leggomyleggolases. Maybe it's my own vanity coming to light here.

[Skafloc]

I know I'm worried I'll be in a town of 10,000 belfs and my homely self. And everyone will say, why didn't you start a blood elf?


I'm still amazed that people can't see that this was inevitable. As soon as Bliz announced a new playable race for both factions, it should have been obvious that there would be a sudden infux of said race. If even simply out of curiosity.

Thing is.. it really doesnt matter what the race is. It just so happens that its Blood Elves. It could just as easily have been Worgen. Fact is, its a new playable race, and almost everyone is going to be test driving one, whether they are open about it or ashamed about it and roll one secretly.

I promise you that.

Sure, there will be the stalwart pessimists who will refuse to have anything to do with the Blood Elves, even to the point of being rude IC to them for no other reason than the player didn't want them in the game.

But they will be in the distinct minority.

They are here.. they are coming. and if it gets too unbearable.. Reroll..

And join the almost identical in size legion of Draenei shaman...

[Orugasa]

I'm still amazed that people can't see that this was inevitable. As soon as Bliz announced a new playable race for both factions, it should have been obvious that there would be a sudden infux of said race. If even simply out of curiosity.

Thing is.. it really doesnt matter what the race is. It just so happens that its Blood Elves. .

Then why are people only excited about Blood Elves? I have seen very little furor for the Draenei. They fact they they are beautiful (and have fantastic armor) plays a huge part in the popularity.

That is certainly not a bad thing. Blizzard suggests you try every race and every class and that's what people are doing!

[Yichimet]

If I had a second account, you can be sure I'd be playing a draenei. I find them infinitely more appealing than blood elves. (And, despite some personal hypocrisy here, I think the lady draenei are kinda foxy, and I want to play one.) Unfortunately, I don't have a second account, and fortunately, I prefer to level my shu'halo shaman.

One worry I do have about the expansion, though: with the hybrid builds becoming even MORE viable, we're going to see a real dearth of actual, gosh-darn devoted healers pretty soon.

[Evanthe]

I would have to agree that the reason everyone is so worked up is that the Blood Elves and Draenai are new.

There are three reasons why I think Blood Elves may be more popular:

1. This board has a much greater amount of horde than alliance. So even without the re-rollers, the Blood elves would look more popular.

2. Paladins. A lot of horde (not sure if this applies to -our- horde) on the main forums have been bitching about the paladins abilities in end game. And the horde (talking from what I can tell on the main forums, not necessarily here) seems more excited about rolling them up than the alliance are shamans. Not that the alliance aren't excited; the horde just seem more so.

3. The Draenai, in this incarnation are completely new. The blood elves/high elves have been around for a loooooong time. Longer that Tauren, etc. So those who played the previous warcraft games may be more excited to play a race they are familiar with.


Personally, I -will- be playing a Draenai, and if I had two accounts it would be on this server. Unfortunately I do not. So it will end up being a throw-away character, just get to level 20, finish the new quests, etc. *sad face* (I seriously need two accounts!)

And also, I'm not looking forward to the massive horde of blood elves, either. But just think, how many of these will be played to 70? Hell, how many will be played past 25?

[Elajinn]

Uhh...where to start?

First - I am only playing a Blood Elf for the paladin-ism. I had a 60 hummy paladin back on Cenarion Circle, and it ws the first (1st!) character I was ever able to get to 60. I had plenty of characters before him, but my paladin was what first got me into WoW (this was before they suddenly had ranged attacks/stuns/executes and could do 1k damage per hit).

Do I want to relive the experiance? Not really. What I loved most about paladins was their options, even near-end game. I like playing my warrior (49) but I hate..hatehatehate not being able to heal myself. I can off-tank, I can off-heal, I can buff people like a mamajama and just generally do what I see that needs to be done. Unlike many other races end-game, where you get stuck doing only one thing (mages = nuking or decursing, priests = healing, rogues = stay behind target and spam buttons, ect) as my paladin, I can do a large variety of things, and shift myself to the things at hand which must be done.

Don't get me wrong. Do I hate that a pretty race is coming to horde? Yes. Alot of lemmings from alliance will follow, and unfortunently we'll have another goldshire whore house. However, do I blame that on the blood elves themself? No. Blood elves are EVIL. I mean, Eeeeeevil. Almost as evil as the forsaken. They belong in the horde. Personally, I would have been happy playing a two-headed ogre (which was my choice for the expansion race). But...thems the breaks. Luckily, you can only have one faction on this server, so the influx won't be -as bad- as it will be on other servers. Not many people are willing to delete their 60 ally characters to switch to horde, and to those who are/do, I salute you.

THough, I do have to admit, giving alliance shamans and horde paladins is bogus. Horde should have gotten deathknights, and alliance should have gotten...something new.

Hmm..lesse...

I find horde women unique. Even rotting undead can be beautiful. Like I said before <3 Tauren and orc women.

And you won't be saying 2 second silence is useless when I silence your priest right before you die! Huzzah!

[Danyxandra]

Well said, Evanthe!!!

Honestly, those who are sick about hearing the bloodelves, well I've had to listen to elf hatred among the horde since the day I rolled Danlily. I roleplayed her as half bloodelf/half troll spy for the Sindorei and I constantly, every single day heard hatred for the bloodelves. I played that half troll for a year, and heard nothing but bitch bitch bitch for 60 levels about everyone hating bloodelves and I got just as sick of the hatred then as you're sick of the love now. It's just our turn now.

If they bring in Pandarens in the next expanion, everyone will roll one of those too. By then they might even bring in the Hero class they talked about two years ago and everyone will roll one of those too. This game's been out for 2 years, and this is the first major, MAJOR expansion. People want to jump into something new, whether it's a new race, or leveling their favorite character to 70 and pwning Outland. Many people in these two years have leveled SEVERAL characters to 60 and are hot to try something new. You're just hearing a lot of Bloodelf love here on TNG because this forum unfortunately leans towards horde for vocal people but we are just a small niche in this server, and there's a LOT of other servers that are so heavy in alliance that the bloodelves are going to fix their population problems and make them a bit more balanced. I've played on other servers before coming to Twisting Nether, and I think most of the carebear servers are waaaay overpopulated with alliance. This is a very old argument that waged on the official forums for the first year of this game and there have been posts ad nauseum on how to fix that problem.

You haven't been in this game long, Orugasa, so by all means take time to love your orc and enjoy her. I loved my troll, Danlily too. But I got bored in this game last spring when Danlily hit 60 and haven't felt gung-ho into this game since. This expansion, my new bloodelf, is breathing life into my love for this game again.

[Thaena]

I just wanted to point out that there is a lot of extra blood elf love on the TNG because we have members like Clys and Dany that have long running story archs that involve blood elves. Seeing months of planning and storycrafting finally coming to fruition is of course a terribly exciting thing. And look how many people have jumped into that storyline! It's inspiring, and their excitement is contagious. I just don't see how this can be a bad thing! Heck I'm jealous!

So far us draenei anticipators seem to be doing our anticipating in a less epic manner than our bloodelf counterparts. I am just as excited about Thaena as others are about their blood elves, but I havn't put the effort into creating an engaging storyline that people feel welcome to just jump into. And that's no one's fault but my own.

[clys]

I will probably do a Dranei also, just cuz, new stuff is always fun.

You know, I remember when EQ1 added Frogloks as a playable race. It was a GAS. Everybody rolled one, I think, and the newbie area was filled with jumping, somersaulting frogs! They were everywhere! Fast forward a few months. Frogloks weren't so popular anymore. My own froggy was like.. level 17 and ignored. I'm sure it'll be similar here. There will be a huge influx of players to bloodelves and dranei, and then after a while it'll even out again.

As long as we're all having fun, I'm all for it.

[Nadea]

I will probably do a Dranei also, just cuz, new stuff is always fun.

You know, I remember when EQ1 added Frogloks as a playable race. It was a GAS. Everybody rolled one, I think, and the newbie area was filled with jumping, somersaulting frogs! They were everywhere! Fast forward a few months. Frogloks weren't so popular anymore. My own froggy was like.. level 17 and ignored. I'm sure it'll be similar here. There will be a huge influx of players to bloodelves and dranei, and then after a while it'll even out again.

As long as we're all having fun, I'm all for it.Oh man, I dont think I could *ever* see myself playing a Froglok... O_o

[Thaena]

They were surprisingly addictive. I was really sad to see that the EQ2 versions lacked the charm of the originals.

*eats scones, drinks tea*

FROAK!

[Okhu]

Yeah so...I heard the NEXT Horde race is Murlocs <_<..........*shifty eyes*....and thier dance?.....why invisible one-man leapfrog in place!.......or better yet....break dance...woo..break dancing Murloc.....Mur-gurgle-gur-gurgle..gurr......Mine Murloc will be named Grizzle the tap dancing murloc with style.....thats right....he'll get to 30 and wear a tux......and after that?....Wrath armor...woo Murloc Warrior!


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[Sabachthan]

In my opinion, everyone here gave completely valid viewpoints. And that's usually hard for me to say because I hate namby-pamby "everyone is right" conclusions.

For those of you still frustrated with the upcoming influx of Blood Elves and Draenei on the server, here are a few suggestions on how to handle it, RP-wise:

1) They just landed / joined the Horde. There's going to be a lot of them. And then they'll go into battle and die. There will be not as many survivors.

2) Don't worry about prissy Blood Elves. Oh, they'll be there. But we come from a very rebellious culture, and so that'll naturally fall within our RP. My main blood elf - - who will not be a pally - - will actually be an outcast within Blood Elf society. She won't fit in with their prissy, delicate disposition. And I don't think I'm going to be unique in this. Just look at all the Horde players who have very sophisticated or childish orcs / tauren / trolls. We like to fight the caricature and stand out.

3) Turn an unfortunate situation into an advantage. Sabachthan hates the Draenei, and he has good RP reason for it. And so what will his response be to the tsunami of lowbie aliens invading his planet? Relentless ganking of Draenei, particularly shaman, as soon as they move into Contested territories. Sure, he's a punk, but it's going to be hilarious to sit and block the pass out of the Draenei noob zone. And when those newly rolled Draenei hop on their alts to stop the ganking ... this is what you call a PvP opportunity. (From this alone I'll probably not play my blood elves for a couple of weeks after I buy BC, because I'll be too busy enjoying the world PvP, I mean ganking.)