HELP ME!!!

[Chingaso]

I kited a GM ticket to report the disappearing pet UI, and now some GM has decided that my name is inappropriate and that I will have to change it! I am absolutely freaking out about this.

I don't know if anything can be done, but if anyone knows anything about how to appeal such a decision, pelase let me know.

I am dying here. :cry: :cry: :cry:

[Brakogar]

I think that we would need to show the GM that your name does not bother us and is fine with the RP.

I would be happy to send a letter to the GM saying that myself and the RP community is fine with your name and it doesn't bother us.

However it would be best if many of us send such letter or we all sign a single letter or petition.

Something we could do is create a thread with a poll saying "Does Chingaso's name bother you" Yes. No.

Of course most people will vote NO. When the thread has enough votes and pro chingaso replies we mail the link to the GM as proof that the community is fine with the name.

Edit:

Chingaso, give us the GM's name so that I can start the letter. I will also post something in the main Forums.

[Brakogar]

Please Support this thread:

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=62150728&postId=621260651&sid=1#0

[Crysa]

done! We won't let them change your name. If they do, just petition till they give it back. Thety changed Wipeout's name 4 times over the course of a year, and when he transfered, it was still Wipeout ;p

Just have to give them a 'viable roleplaying reason for name'. I shit you not.

[Hellista]

One thing I've seen happen before was when they make you change your name, just spell it exactly the same. It works, and they never notice.

And what the heck is wrong with Chingaso?!?! Thats a great name!

[Chingaso]

The GM that I talked to first was Xellzender. He didn't even say anything to me about it, I just got an in-game message plus an e-mail. Then Vedrelkor was the one I "appealed" to. And he was just not nice.

[Hellista]

Okay, I goggled Chingaso to see if there might be an actual issue, and came up with Chingaso the Clown. Chingaso the clown is a copyrighted character from comics and DVD's, and that is where you run into a problem. Personally, I think the GM (and the person who reported you) are stupid, but they may unfortunately be right.

Appealing it may do no good, but I'd give it a shot.

[Brakogar]

Chingaso is a Mexican Spanish word that means many things. If there is a Chingaso the clown then Chingaso is only copyrighted when used in that context ('Chingaso the clown').

copyrighting the word by itself would be like gaining rights to the word 'happy' when copyrighting 'Happy the clown'

Chingaso should still stand as long as it is not used in a rude or copyrighted context which is not.

[Chingaso]

By the way, I really appreciate you starting that thread Brak. I was in the game earlier and someone asked me about it. Looks like the word will get out anyway.

[Tibr]

8O Holy Cow this is just just...mind boggling

/signed on the TN Forums

Damn Chingaso i feel for you i really do much <3 :cry:

And i was still reeling over when they changed Gaya's name and now this???

FU GM'S FU

And an FU to whoever reported it too...holy crap :evil:

[Hellista]

I don't understand how a name likke Chingaso gets reported, when all the time I see names like "Dieinafire" and "Potatosalad" go unchanged.

For gods sake, PotatoSalad made it to level 60 after being reported a number of times, and still hasn't had his name changed!!!

[Danyxandra]

I signed. *hugs*

[Abric]

Speaking from the logical standpoint... if you can't get it changed; just take advantage of it roleplay wise.

Sometimes... an orc grows into something else after trials and tribulations.

... tribulations? That's a word, right? Tribulation the Orc!

[Morgauth]

I signed also. Good lord, they leave Nanabanana and Badvibrations and weresthebeef. Chingaso is a great, RP name, and a great character too.

[Evanthe]

Alright, I'm going to post a disenting opinion here, nothing against you personally Chingaso.

From the Denver Post:

“Chingaso” is Chicano slang with a flexible, sometimes profane, definition; Salas and Peña say they intend it to mean “fight.”

Now, "to fight" is not offensive at all, but perhaps it's this "profane" definition that is getting your name banned? Urban dictionary had three definitions. The first, mort popular, was to hit someone hard. Okay, fine, not offensive.

But the other two definitions? I would ban your name myself if it meant either. I think it would be banned from a ANY server if that was the case.


I guess my point is that the name may very well be profanity. If this is the case, are we going to defend his name simply because we like him? Nice or no, if his name violates naming policy, it violates naming policy. I'm sure Mr. Potatosalad and Dieinafire have friends who would use the same argument. "But we like him, so its okay!'

[Nadea]

Well, thats ridiculous.

And I would sign the thread, but the WoW forums blow and they're telling me that my account is invalid... *grumble*

Good luck Chingy, keep fighting!

[Morgauth]

There is a line of clothing items named Chingaso

In spanish, the word means 'fight'

In 'spanglesh' which is not a real language, the word is sometimes used to mean "head honcho", "big dick" or "fucker".

So do we really have to be sure our names do not have any meaning, anywhere, to anyone, in any language or non-language? Seems rather stupid to me.

The truth is, the GMs are being arbitrary here.

[Evanthe]

In 'spanglesh' which is not a real language, the word is sometimes used to mean "head honcho", "big dick" or "fucker".


Now, please, please, PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Chingaso have a pet named Huevos? I thought I read that on here...

Now, huevos, by the dictionary, means eggs, but its more common usage is for testicles. Like balls = testicles in American slang.


So what we have here is either Fighter and Eggs OR "Big Dick" and "Balls"...

And this is not offensive HOW?

Look, nothing personal. I like Chingaso, I like his RP, and I think there are worse names on the server. But come -on- that can't be seen as offensive? He didn't intentionally pick dick and balls?

[Lelenia]

No taking my Chingy's name!

:: scurrys off to /sign the TN thread::

[Ephram]

Sorry, but there is a bunch of hypocracy going on here. I love you guys but I have seen you rail against names FAR less problematic than Chingy's. Can his name be excused away to be innocent? Yes. But its far more likely to be offensive. I love Chingy, I think his RP is great, but I have to be honest, before I got to know him as an RPer I thought he was an ass-hat anti-RPer for having a name that meant "Dick". I am from the same region as Chingy and I promise you, he meant his name as "Dick" not "Fighter". Trust me.

Awesome as you are Chingy, I am surprised your name made it this far. Take the change, you will still rock under a different name.

[Ephram]

Also, to come at it from another angle-

Chingy's name IS problematic. He is a nice guy, a good RPer and a benefit to the server. HOWEVER, if we don't change his name we are setting a president. If we as a community outcry to keep this name, than the next questionable name (perhaps owned by someone less likable) may be excused as well.

TN has done so well because there are a dedicated group of players who take a hard line to defend the RP we built here. Don't break that line, even if its for a friend of us all.

[Phia]

Udderpants managed to appeal his name change, so it's not impossible.

[Ephram]

Udderpants managed to appeal his name change, so it's not impossible.

Yes but is Udderpants REALLY in the spirit of RP? SHOULD have it been changed from an RP stand point?

Also Udderpants isn't potentially offensive.

This isn't just an RP issue. If I were playing on a PVP only server I may report it. Anyone in the American southwest probably would.

Again. I LOVE Chingy, but I am not letting that bias my desicion. It should have been changed a long time ago.

[Phia]

Udderpants is very tongue-in-cheek roleplaying, which is perfectly fine by me. I'll take self-satire over your stereotypical angsty elves or undead any day. Our community needs more comedy.

[Ephram]

Udderpants is very tongue-in-cheek roleplaying, which is perfectly fine by me. I'll take self-satire over your stereotypical angsty elves or undead any day. Our community needs more comedy.

I agree, I like comedy as well. Blizzard filled Azeroth with tongue-in-cheek comedy.

Again, this isn't an RP issue really. He would likely have hit this problem on ANY server.

[Shadowspeak]

the best name I've seen so far was the Tauren druid named "Bullshift"

[Ephram]

This is what I wrote on the TN forum petition and I feel it should be read here.


You all do realize that by petitioning the GMs to keep his name you are potentially damaging RP here?

GMs have CLEARLY stated that they only enforce RP to the level that they feel the server community desires.

If you petition GMs to keep a questionable name, you are only weakening THIER resolve to enforce RP on TN.

Also-

I must say again. THIS IS NOT AN RP ISSUE.

His name would most likely be changed on ANY server type. It should be noted that his name was not changed due to a complaint, but because he sent in a ticket and the GM on HIS OWN INITIATIVE decided (correctly) that the name was too potetially offensive.

Please stop turning this into a popularity contest. We are not all in highschool here.

[Lelenia]

...ya realize Chingaso has backstories as to *why* he has the name he does, none of which make refference to male genitals.

[Ephram]

...ya realize Chingaso has backstories as to *why* he has the name he does, none of which make refference to male genitals.

YOu do realize I could make an RP explanation for ANY NAME?

My characters name is "Shitface" He's an orc. In the internment camps the human gaurds would beat him, tie him to a post and make him eat shit chanting "Shitface" at him

He snapped.

He is now a roaming berserker craving human blood and only refering to himself as "Shitface".

Guess what? My name is still offensive.

This IS NOT an RP issue. How many times to I have to say that?

[Shadowspeak]

...ya realize Chingaso has backstories as to *why* he has the name he does, none of which make refference to male genitals.

YOu do realize I could make an RP explanation for ANY NAME?

My characters name is "Shitface" He's an orc. In the internment camps the human gaurds would beat him, tie him to a post and make him eat shit chanting "Shitface" at him

He snapped.

He is now a roaming berserker craving human blood and only refering to himself as "Shitface".

Guess what? My name is still offensive.

This IS NOT an RP issue. How many times to I have to say that?Apparently one more time at least.

[Evanthe]

...ya realize Chingaso has backstories as to *why* he has the name he does, none of which make refference to male genitals.


... I can roll up a character named Hitler. I can have justifications that have nothing to do with Nazis. It will be changed.

... I can justify ANY name. So? His name has an offensive meaning. Whether he intended to or not.

His name is STILL offensive. It's not an RP-naming issue, its a cross-server naming issue.

From the Naming poilcy, NOT the RP naming policy- the one that effects all servers.


Highly Inappropriate

Names which fall under the following categories are deemed to be highly inappropriate. Clarification on what constitutes each category can be found by clicking on the links below.

* Racial/Ethnic/National
* Extreme Sexuality/Violence
* Sexual Orientation
* Obscene/Vulgar

Though we have varying tolerance for repeated abuse of each category, any name that violates one of these categories will most likely:

* Be forced to choose a new name next time the character is logged in
* Be temporarily suspended from the game



Obscene/Vulgar
This category includes both clear and masked names which:

* Are inappropriate references to human anatomy or bodily functions
* Are pornographic in nature

His name is obscene and vulgar. That's how I interpret it, and apparently how the GMs did, too.

[Ephram]

...ya realize Chingaso has backstories as to *why* he has the name he does, none of which make refference to male genitals.

YOu do realize I could make an RP explanation for ANY NAME?

My characters name is "Shitface" He's an orc. In the internment camps the human gaurds would beat him, tie him to a post and make him eat shit chanting "Shitface" at him

He snapped.

He is now a roaming berserker craving human blood and only refering to himself as "Shitface".

Guess what? My name is still offensive.

This IS NOT an RP issue. How many times to I have to say that?Apparently one more time at least.

THIS IS NOT AN RP ISSUE

[Morgauth]

So, what about it Chingaso? Did you actually know your name meant 'big dick' and your pet 'balls'?

Let me be clear, I personally am not offended, even if it was intentional. I think it's funny. But if that is the known meaning of your name, I can see why the GM called you on it.

Either way, to my mind Chingaso is completely un-offensive and a valid RP name.

[Evanthe]

I just wanted to make it clear, once again, that I am not against Chingaso in any way shape or form. Personally, I don't find Chingaso and Huevos to be offensive, but I -do- think they violated the naming policy. And as such, I support his name being changed.

It just really bothers me that we would hold one of our friends, one of our community members, to a different standard because he is an RP-er. If anything we should hold ourselves to a higher standard.

Now, I understand how important character naming is to everyone. We each grow attached to our names. But the rules are rules, and as much as it sucks... it was found to violate the policy.

Please don't sign a petition to change his name back. Think of the precedent you are creating by doing so. Next time Mr. Asshat-with-the-non-RP-name gets it changed, he just gets a few freinds to complain...

Then we could have a bunch of Chucknorris and Ipwnunoob running around. An exageration? Maybe.

Maybe.

[Ephram]

I just wanted to make it clear, once again, that I am not against Chingaso in any way shape or form. Personally, I don't find Chingaso and Huevos to be offensive, but I -do- think they violated the naming policy. And as such, I support his name being changed.

It just really bothers me that we would hold one of our friends, one of our community members, to a different standard because he is an RP-er. If anything we should hold ourselves to a higher standard.

Now, I understand how important character naming is to everyone. We each grow attached to our names. But the rules are rules, and as much as it sucks... it was found to violate the policy.

Please don't sign a petition to change his name back. Think of the precedent you are creating by doing so. Next time Mr. Asshat-with-the-non-RP-name gets it changed, he just gets a few freinds to complain...

Then we could have a bunch of Chucknorris and Ipwnunoob running around. An exageration? Maybe.

Maybe. Now THAT's /signable

[Lelenia]

When I was in Rooks, my friend Petition had to have his name changed. The reason?

PeTITion.

He is known as Kochakoi now.

Funny how the link says "petition a GM"...maybe we should petition to get that changed too <.<

[Morgauth]

But koch sounds too much like cock! I think he needs his name changed again! Anyway.. time to exit this thread, nothing more to be gained by arguing this.

[Ephram]

When I was in Rooks, my friend Petition had to have his name changed. The reason?

PeTITion.

He is known as Kochakoi now.

Funny how the link says "petition a GM"...maybe we should petition to get that changed too <.<

You know what I love. I love using the ToS. Centuries of common usage in the Mexican language and logic.

I also love when people come back with extreme cases and off the wall examples to dispute them.

Read the ToS.

Ask Chingaso how he could possible have made the coincidental accident of naming his Hunter and pet Cock and Balls in slang commonly used in his region of the country.

Realize this is NOT AN RP ISSUE or a popularity contest.

Remember that no one reported it and a GM noticed it on his/her own.

Still want to argue this? Ok, but its not going to change anything. The GMs hands are tied by the ToS. The only thing you are doing is showing Ass-hats that thier non-RP names can be saved if they complain enough.

Go for it.

[Shadowspeak]

You people are making such a big deal about someones name... I mean.. comeon.

I say Chingaso should have his name because he's a cool guy. I don't really care about the naming polocies as long as your a decent person and the name isn't just well, stupid Like hamsandwhich.

[Rasta]

Blah blah blah blah, TL;DR. Whatever the hell the issue may be is irrelevant. If we want to bring out the de facto meanings of things, fine, but that opens a whole new can of worms. Here's how it goes. Almost any and all RP and RP events that have taken place and do take place on this server come from the people of the TNG. If it were not for the TNG, the RP on this server would have died out long ago to the ever-persistent douchebags that seem to be present and force themselves upon every aspect of life. Chingaso is a well-respected and active member of the TNG. He has many friends in the TNG who will take his side in a situation like this, right or wrong. So here's the deal: you mess with Ching, you mess with the TNG. You (or the GMs) mess with the TNG, you cut the tap root of the RP in this "RP-PVP" server. And hey, if it's come to the point where Blizzard no longer cares about that, then so be it... that just means Blizzard has given themselves over to the steep and slippery path that kills MMO's. Indifference to uniqueness.

We are the TNG, this is our server.

[Danyxandra]

Well I had NO idea what the "common" meaning of Chingaso and Huevos means, but it does lead suspiciously to the idea that he purposely meant the offensive meaning of Chingaso rather than the innocent meaning because of naming his pet Huevos.

Nothing against Chingaso, but I'd have to pull my signature on helping him on that one then.

I just hope Danyxandra doesn't mean anything offensive in Mandarin, Ukranian, or Swahili, because I can't possibly know every language on this planet to ensure I don't offend people.

Love ya, Ching, but maybe you should come up with an RP reason for a name change, make the change and call it good.

[Evanthe]

I say Chingaso should have his name because he's a cool guy.


This is EXACTLY what I have a problem with. In my opinion, we ALL should be held to the same standards, regardless of how cool we are.

Now, I know human nature, and I'm far from perfect. We are all FAR more likely to report someone we don't like rather than a friend. But honestly, shouldn't we -all- have to play by the same rules?

On the subject of inadvertant offensiveness: apparently, someone on the main forum just informed me that my mages name, Tilly, was slang in the military for a loose woman, i.e. slut. I didn't know this at all. So yes, it can happen. But if the GMs find Tilly offensive, I hope I would be rational enough to realize that the rules apply to all of us, myself included, and just go with the change.

[Shadowspeak]

honestly, shouldn't we -all- have to play by the same rules?

Nope. I don't have a problem playing favorites, mainly because this is a game and not life.

Real life, eveyone deserves the same basic rights... but on the game I play to have fun, I'm going to go for the people I like and against the people I don't like.

[Ephram]

honestly, shouldn't we -all- have to play by the same rules?

Nope. I don't have a problem playing favorites, mainly because this is a game and not life.

Real life, eveyone deserves the same basic rights... but on the game I play to have fun, I'm going to go for the people I like and against the people I don't like.

Ok so what happens if we get a group of asshats. Say a whole guild of them. And one of them rolls up a name "Ihaterp". We report, a GM changes it, but he's got a full guild and his friends behind him. They petitions, scream, and cry. And he gets it back.

Put the shoe on the other foot. Sometimes the person being favored isn't on your side.

Start playing favorites and it can bite you in the ass Shadowspeak.

[Evanthe]

=
Real life, eveyone deserves the same basic rights... but on the game I play to have fun, I'm going to go for the people I like and against the people I don't like.


I understand your point of view, its human nature. But I think its wrong.


Even though this is a game, we are all dealing with real human beings behind those avatars...

[Shadowspeak]

I could care less...

if that ever happened.. HEY! Guess what! I can ingore them completely!

I don't mind if it's used for or against me. I'll just ignore it and move on.

Oh, and I doubt anyone could ever actually get an entire guild of people to vote for that name back. Anyone anmed that has got to be a ginormous douchbag.

[Rasta]

Hmm. Alright then, how come my name hasn't been changed? hmm? I'm sure it's offensive to someone, somewhere in the world. Not to mention that even though I have an RP story for it, it's one of those non-RP names that anyone could come up with a story for. If Chingaso is going to the gallows, where is my noose too?

Edit: Basically, if they're gonna cut Ching after all this time, and start to play things they way you're saying, Eph, then they're gonna need to get out their big shit-snippers, because they've got a lot of work to do on this server.

[Ephram]

Anyone anmed that has got to be a ginormous douchbag.

You realize the same COULD be said about Chingaso, right?

I know he isn't a "douchbag" I love the guy.

I think you are failing to see the bigger picture here, Shadow.

[Ephram]

Hmm. Alright then, how come my name hasn't been changed? hmm? I'm sure it's offensive to someone, somewhere in the world. Not to mention that even though I have an RP story for it, it's one of those non-RP names that anyone could come up with a story for. If Chingaso is going to the gallows, where is my noose too?

The majority of WoW players (I am guessing) are American. A very LARGE percentage of Americans know SOME spanish slang. Blizzard is based in CA I believe. Have you BEEN to CA? Go there and ask to find some Chingaso and see what happens.


His name isn't a remote or rarely used dialect. Its a common language.

Try creating a character that means Big Dick using German, or French. Hell even Japanese. See how long it lasts.

[Evanthe]

Hmm. Alright then, how come my name hasn't been changed? hmm? I'm sure it's offensive to someone, somewhere in the world. Not to mention that even though I have an RP story for it, it's one of those non-RP names that anyone could come up with a story for. If Chingaso is going to the gallows, where is my noose too?


There are a whole bunch of names I don't think are approriate on this server; there's even more that could be offensive to some people, some where.

The GMs are the authority on name changes. I agree they change names arbitrarily, but they are still the authority on it. Why they picked chingaso and not, say, your name? Who knows. They found his more offensive or aren't aware of yours, perhaps. Or they think Rasta ia a fine name.

*shrug* Personally, I wish the GMs would be more consistent with this. I think most people would agree with me on that statement.

Edit: I also think most people would agree that my spelling/typing skills are atrocious. Whould? Whould?! Gah!

[Shadowspeak]

...

anything could be said about anyone. I'm just saying that anyone willing to name their main character "Ihaterp" on a roleplaying server would not be smart enough to function in life.

[Tillna]

...

anything could be said about anyone. I'm just saying that anyone willing to name their main character "Ihaterp" on a roleplaying server would not be smart enough to function in life.

If shadow had a vagina..I would father his kids.

and that will offend some one, that statement

[Abric]

Shadowspeak and Rasta, you are being lawyers. We aren't in a court... so put down the tie and suitcase.

Chingaso isn't dumb. He knows what his name means... and any ignorance to the point is out the window due to his raptors name. I didn't know what Chingaso means until somebody told me... but I am well aware what Huevos means.

Doesn't bother me in the least. I never reported his name, or his pet's name. I save my reports for more obvious things... foreign language giggle shits aren't one of them. Bumboclot (or Bumbojin) had to change his name, because it meant fuck in Jamacian. I didn't know that until I was told... but supposedly someone else did. *Bam* name change.

"What about the other people?"

Oh, they will get got. It all depends on WHAT GM is getting it, just as we who are seeing it. Chingaso got unlucky he found himself a Latin GM... and the hammer was dropped. Ephram and Evanthe are looking at this logically... and as players who understand that if we are going to thump the rulebook... we have to obey those rules.

Like it. Don't like it. Everybody plays by the same rulebook. It just seems some people get thwacked by Judge Dredd before others do.

[Rasta]

sigh... very well. <Lawyer Costume fades.>

This type of thing just gets me.

[Chingaso]

Ephram, if you go out on the streets of where I live and say, "I had a Chingaso," they will look for bruises. It means fistfight here. That's all.

As to the dual meaning of Huevos, raptors hatch from eggs.

Never fucking mind. Jesus Mary and Joseph, I didn't want a fucking debate, just a little support.

[Shadowspeak]

I wasn't playing lawyer as much as myself...

[Tillna]

Chin, I got your back..I think your name works...

Jsut change it to somethign that sounds like Chingaso...or leave it the same

[Shadowspeak]

Change it to Cheengahso

[Lelenia]

/target idiocy

/cast holyfire(rank4)

/servercrash

Bah...multiple targets.

<3 Chingy, I'm behind you much as I can be.

[Fhenrir]

Never fucking mind. Jesus Mary and Joseph, I didn't want a fucking debate, just a little support.

I think regardless of how this turns out, it's quite clear you have the support of the TNG community in regards to being a cool person, and probably just about anything else you need.

[Chingaso]

Oh, and for anyone who wonders why it was so long between posts for me, I was in church this morning. Not that that makes me inherantly good mind you, but just pointing out that a lot of people are making a lot of assumptions about me.

Ephram and Evanthe or Tilly and Misra or whoever the hell you are, I get it. You don't like it. You should have reported it.

*resists the mighty urge to stop being such a nice guy...*

[Tillna]

*Thros shadow a tChing* RAWR!


*hugs*

we all love you Ching...they just play devils advocate I thinik

[Cedes]

I kited a GM ticket to report the disappearing pet UI, and now some GM has decided that my name is inappropriate and that I will have to change it! I am absolutely freaking out about this.

I don't know if anything can be done, but if anyone knows anything about how to appeal such a decision, pelase let me know.

I am dying here. :cry: :cry: :cry:



i bitch slapped your name to yahoo and this is what came up

1) a clown named Chingaso who is liek some psycho
2) prison clothes for the average joe! :D.....>.>...
http://chingaso.com/


EDIT- i liek their motto "walk the walk...talk the talk...fight the fight"

also their describtion talks about "life is a fight!, so u gotta be propared foo!" or something liek that.


....your name seems to promote violence :roll:

[Cyrass]

http://www.blizzard.com/support/wowgm/?id=agm01723p#obscene/vulgar

The GM made their call on the meaning of your name, and took it to mean the slang term. Does it suck that it happened to an RPer and a fellow TNGer? Yes. However, those two things should not give you special privilages to the rules that are in place for all servers.

[Brakogar]

Chingaso's name is very abstract and can mean lots of things depending on the context and area its used in. Before this thread was made Chingaso did not mean 'Big %#*#' or anything of the sort to many of you.

I knew what Chingaso meant all along but I was also aware of its different meanings. Its like banning someone who has given his character a first name like 'D ick' which despite it been a common RL name it is still acceptable under the RP rules despite 'D ick' also meaning a slang word for a part of the male anatomy.

So what if his pet is named huevos, many of you didn't think twice about it before and even though Chingaso was probably aware of the connection he took it as a 'tongue in chick ' joke for those who would understand it (a minority as even Chingaso is not a well known word in latin America).

Chingaso no where near as offensive as other names on this realm who do have a more direct and obvious reference to sexuality or completly against the rules names like potatosalad ans so forth.

I think that if really offensive and inappropriate character names can live out their gaming lives and never be called upon to change it despite numerous reports then Chingaso has every right to keep his name. Most of those people are griefers too with much more than their name been reported yet you still see them running around until they get bored and move on from the realm.

I think that we have enough support on this thread to use it as reference in a letter to Blizzard. I recommend that everyone who is against having Chingaso's name changed to please send a letter to Blizzard's Customer relations and quote this link as reference and proof that Chingaso is a valued member of the RP community and that his name does not bother the mayority of us .

[Shadowspeak]

I have decided that...





...most likely...





Chingasos name will be...





...in fact...






...banned. So the issue now is choosing a good new name.

[Brakogar]

I have decided that...





...most likely...





Chingasos name will be...





...in fact...






...banned. So the issue now is choosing a good new name.

The only one who can make the call to stop fighting this problem is Chingaso and until he does I am behind him all the way.

[Shadowspeak]

Oh, trust me, I'm behind him allright. But I don't think we can do much more than what we have allready done.

of course, it never hurt to try.

[turen]

I've been aware of the similarities of 'chingaso' to chingar, but I didn't care. Its not all that common a word. The naming of the raptor Huevos...well I woulda thought that should have been changed right away. Might just be living around a lot of mexicans, or with a dad who taught me to swear in spanish as soon as I could string a few sentances together, but the term Huevos is synonomous in my mind to testicles. So what if raptors come from eggs.


Final thought:

Hey, you managed to stay with your name for a good long time. I doubt fighting will do any good, no matter who backs you. But I may be wrong. Either way, I'd have a backup name in mind.

[Kazthul]

The only one who can make the call to stop fighting this problem is Chingaso and until he does I am behind him all the way.

((Agreed. I support Chingaso a hundred percent. He can infact rp his name and regardless of what his intention was when he rolled up Chingaso, good rp goes a long way in my book. I don't think he should have to cast his name asside, especially after so long when there are numerous violations to the naming policy that the GMs frankly either don't care about, unwilling to care about, or just don't have the time to deal with.))

[Cyrass]

So, basically what you are saying is because Chingaso is an RPer, he should get special privilages on naming, despite that his name violates the TOS?

[Brakogar]

No what we are saying is if 'Sexxypants' can live his entire wow life despite numerous reports then something as abstract as Chingaso which can mean different things (some been inoffensive) has every right to continue.

[Ephram]

Oh, and for anyone who wonders why it was so long between posts for me, I was in church this morning. Not that that makes me inherantly good mind you, but just pointing out that a lot of people are making a lot of assumptions about me.

Ephram and Evanthe or Tilly and Misra or whoever the hell you are, I get it. You don't like it. You should have reported it.

*resists the mighty urge to stop being such a nice guy...*

Chingy,

I don't have, and never had a problem with your name. Ever.
I like you. I found your name and the name of your raptor amusing. It made me giggle a little.

I didn't write the ToS. I didn't report your name. Sorry if you blame me for the GMs decision. If you ever need anything in game, please don't hesitate to ask me.

[Evanthe]

So, basically what you are saying is because Chingaso is an RPer, he should get special privilages on naming, despite that his name violates the TOS?

Apparently, thats what a LOT of people seem to think.

None of us should get special naming privlages. Friend or no, awesome or no.

[Mohan]

The stick in the mud here is that there are a lot more names that violate the ToS a lot more. Sure, maybe the name Chingaso does. But Blizzard should crack down on the names that much more blatantly violate the ToS first. Then maybe they can work on the vague ones. A little consistency in upholding the naming policies is all I'm looking for.

[Evanthe]

Oh, and for anyone who wonders why it was so long between posts for me, I was in church this morning. Not that that makes me inherantly good mind you, but just pointing out that a lot of people are making a lot of assumptions about me.

Ephram and Evanthe or Tilly and Misra or whoever the hell you are, I get it. You don't like it. You should have reported it.

*resists the mighty urge to stop being such a nice guy...*

Honestly, it's nothing personal. I understand why you may feel that way. I hope you will understand, however, that it has nothing to do with you as a person, and more about people bending the rules when it suits them.

Wether we like it or not, your name was found in violation of the ToS. I do not think it is right to 'break the rules' or make an exception just because you are a nice guy, because you are an RP-er or whatever.

Please don't take it as an attack against you, or a judge on your character.

[Evanthe]

The stick in the mud here is that there are a lot more names that violate the ToS a lot more. Sure, maybe the name Chingaso does. But Blizzard should crack down on the names that much more blatantly violate the ToS first. Then maybe they can work on the vague ones. A little consistency in upholding the naming policies is all I'm looking for.


I agree that the naming poilcy should be upheld more consistently. But just because someone else's name may violate the naming policy and hasn't been changed does not mean that the GMs should not change others that do as well.

[Brakogar]

I say that this is more than just the TOS, its about Fairness.

If the rules applied to everyone then why do I see so many ubber 60s with clearly inappropriate names which can only mean ONE thing. To top it all these people are usually griefers so they get reported not just for their names yet months could go by and he is still running around unchanged.


Chingaso's name can mean something offensive but its also abstract as it can mean other inoffensive things too and most people have never even heard of any meanings of the word. So if others can harass RPers and have obviously inappropriate names and be left alone, Chingaso has every right to keep his name.

[Morgauth]

I have an idea for a new add on. The Random Name Changer! Changes everyone's names on log in. Now that would be fun!

[Tillna]

WWhy am I....Dirty slut with sword>

DAMN YOU NAM ECHANGER!!!!!!!!

[Daala]

If the rules applied to everyone then why do I see so many ubber 60s with clearly inappropriate namesBecause GM's are desperately undermanned for their jobs, and have to prioritize more important complaints (griefing, for instance)?

Chingaso had the classic "pending warrant" misfortune. People like "Suckmycockforgiggles" don't tend to open tickets.

Does it suck? Yeah, it sucks that Suckmycockforgiggles has played long enough to get a full Tier 2. Hell, he's close to getting his Hand of Rag. But that isn't an excuse to break the rules, which is what you're advocating.

I love Chingy. I think he's a marvelous person, I really do, and I support him all the way. I've never reported anybody for a name violation on an RP server. I don't care, I think it's a sad waste of energy to essentially snitch on somebody, often without provocation. But I'm in the minority on that, and anybody who thinks that Chingy shouldn't change the name, not on the basis of it being a legitimate name but on the basis of the fact that he is our friend and we love him, is being a total hypocrite if they have EVER reported somebody for a name violation. Fairness? You're advocating doing away with the law because most get away with it. That isn't fairness. That's doing away with the rule.

"Big dick" isn't the standard meaning of Chingaso, but it is widespread slang. The people who would recognize it as such probably hear it often enough not to care. I don't think anybody out there is going to get offended by "Chingaso." But GM's don't have the time to holistically evaluate every name in the gray area. These people have children, for ambiguous deity's sakes. AND more important tickets to attend to. The line has to be drawn somewhere, and vulgar references to body parts? That's a pretty fair line.

Chingy, I hope you don't take this personal. I love "Chingaso" almost as much as I love "Huevos." If you truly say that you didn't know it meant "Big Dick" when you made your character, then I believe you. But it isn't about what you understood the name to be, it's about that one prude who might be offended when he or she sees a Big Dick running around.

[Brakogar]

Chingy, now that is not a bad name if things come to worse. Most people do refer to him as Chingy anyways but if his name is left alone would be better.

[Shadowspeak]

I would hate to have my actual game name be my nickname.

[Chingaso]

At this point, I have logged in and out a half-dozen times or more without having to change, so I'm guessing for whatever reason it is a dead issue.

I would also like to request that this be locked.

[Brakogar]

Be careful sometimes they can take a while but they eventually get to it.

[turen]

Could be worse. On a non rp realm I played I had an RL friend in the guild I was in. Now, his game name was Tozak, but his real name was Tucker. One day on a raid he called me by name over vent. Then they asked what Tozaks name was. I said his name was 'fucker' and he was called that by the guild ever since.

[Morgauth]

My real name is Chingy. Ok, it's not.

[Tillna]

My Real name is Nick

AKA Top Hunter.

[Mortica]

locked per Chingaso's request