All RPers please support this Official WoW thread

[Brakogar]

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=7149960&p=1&tmp=1#post7149960

The above thread in the official forums addreses many of our main concerns in TN and has some great suggestions on getting rid of the L33t D00d invation.

We have become a minority in our own server and we must support efforts to clean up the RP realms from jerks and griefers.

Please add bump it, /sign it or make a comment on it if you like but we must make the Blues address it.

[Mortica]

done.

Save RP. Feed the server gerbils!

[Tyrsza]

Done.

[Caelyn]

done

[Rhowen-Prea]

Done.

[Sojii]

Done. Reading through that post made me sad.

[clys]

yep, good idea

[Pythre-Co]

Done and done.

[Abric]

...

I don't see anything.

[Brakogar]

It appears that the WoW General forums are having difficulties (again!). Thankfuly I dont think the thread has been deleted as General cannot be accessed at all.

If they did delete it, it would be the ultimate disrespect and F**K YOU to the WoW RP community since there was nothing offensive or against the ULA in it.

[Mortica]

I don't remember which company the commercial was for (might have been American Express), but Blizzard is reminding me more and more of it.

It's like 3 or 4 people sitting in an office waiting for the phones to ring. The announcer is like "Blah company will help you build your company up".

The phones start ringing and the people are all happy and hugging each other and start answering the phones. The announcer is like "Blah will help you grow your company and make the transition from a small company...

The camera starts zooming out and you see the same desks but their in a warehouse full of them, and ALL the phones in this warehouse start ringing. the camera zooms back in on the people and they all have this terrified look on their face.

The announcer finishes " into a large company". More people suddenly appear and the original people look happy again.


That moment of panic is I'm sure a daily thing for Blizzard employees.

[Brakogar]

I have an idea to get Blizzard's attention but its a bit radical.

We should all cancel our accounts on the same day. When Blizzard notices 200+ accounts cancelled in one day on the same server it should at least turn their heads and stop ignoring us.

We will still be able to play as the account is not terminated until the payment month is over and we can always renew with minimal fuzz when it does finish. However the announcement of so many accounts claiming not to renew at the same time will impact them a bit.

I cant suggest this to the other realm's RP population because the thread will inmediately get locked in the offcicial forums, but what do you think?

[Longcat]

Um... I rather not do that. I actually play on different servers with different friends and well, I don't really mind how RP is right now. Just go find a RP guild and you're in a group of people who RP. Yay!

[Brakogar]

Um... I rather not do that. I actually play on different servers with different friends and well, I don't really mind how RP is right now. Just go find a RP guild and you're in a group of people who RP. Yay!

Finding an RP community to inmerse yourslef in is fine but we should not have:

To tolerate Griefers harrasing you everytime you say something IC in /say in a public place like it happens when we hold nether council meeting in an town or Undercity courtyard.

Adjust your RP events as they are happening because griefers are /emoting and spaming the /say chat with ridiculous phrases.

Change the nature of an RP event idea because it cannot be held at a particular place (like Orgrimmar) because there is a 100% likelyhood that it will be disrupted by griefers making you change the location of the event even though its crucial to the story.



I should not have to tolerate a flood of insults and people looking down onme because I am RPing with my friends.

The logical thing is to ignore them but when over 50% of the realm is like that it becomes imposible as you are adding names to the list constantly also ruinining the inmersion.

I should not have to watch my back when RPing or holding events like we do now. This is an RP realm afterall

Please continue to bump the official forums thread

[Alucian]

I don't think that'll serve any purpose. Granted, 200+ accounts unsubscribing in one fell swoop might get someone's attention, but then what? You've...let the bad guys win. They get our server uncontested.

All we can do is keep striving to make TN the best RP server there is, and hope one day Blizzard will finally start enforcing their rules.

[Brakogar]

The point is that we never leave in reality but Blizzard alarms have already sounded as we have 'declared' that we will not renew. When the account is about to end its monthly cycle we just resubscribe but the shock and point has been made. We never actualy leave the game only on their database.

[Brakogar]

Here is a second 18+ page thread of RPers requesting Blizzard's attention in the Official WoW suggestions forum:

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?FN=wow-suggestions&T=558698&P=1

We must support all attempts at trying to clean the existing RP realms from the nonsense that we have to put up with every day.

Blizzard must get the idea that there will be long term consequences if they continue to ignore us. The game has gotten preety old now since the new content is repetitive and nothing new (just raid dungeon after dugeon) so as soon as the next big thing comes out WoW will suddenly deflate. The PvP kiddies would have jumped ship anyways but the loyal custumers would have remained if Blizzard had acknowledged them more.

[Alucian]

I'd like to first say that I greatly support and hope everything in that thread comes to fruition. I'd love to have a server where I can RP and know that I'm not going to be interrupted by a dancing naked gnome emoting throwing up on my head. (Yes, that's happened, and if you read these forums, die in a fire.)

That being said, I try to look at things like this from a different perspective. Is it important that the l33t d3wds are put in their place? You're damn well right it is. But isn't it more important that Blizzard being working on, say...performance issues? Dollar for dollar, I'd rather my fifteen a month be used to make sure I don't get DCed while some hordie is ganking me.

In short, I wouldn't hold it against Blizzard if they're focusing on making the game work atm. Making the game work > policing the game.

Though, weeding out the l33t d3wds would make the server pop go down...hmmmm...~~

[Longcat]

New clothes and those silly holiday events were made. Longcat had fun RPing around during the valentines event looking for someone to break his aching heart.

[Brakogar]

I'd like to first say that I greatly support and hope everything in that thread comes to fruition. I'd love to have a server where I can RP and know that I'm not going to be interrupted by a dancing naked gnome emoting throwing up on my head. (Yes, that's happened, and if you read these forums, die in a fire.)

That being said, I try to look at things like this from a different perspective. Is it important that the l33t d3wds are put in their place? You're damn well right it is. But isn't it more important that Blizzard being working on, say...performance issues? Dollar for dollar, I'd rather my fifteen a month be used to make sure I don't get DCed while some hordie is ganking me.

In short, I wouldn't hold it against Blizzard if they're focusing on making the game work atm. Making the game work > policing the game.

Though, weeding out the l33t d3wds would make the server pop go down...hmmmm...~~

At this point we just wish to be acknowledged not ignored. If they have performance issues or any more pressing issues then they should at least say so (they dont even have to specify).

Instead they ignore us

[Rhowen-Prea]

I say they open transfers FROM Twisting Nether TO a low pop PvP server.

The RPers will stay.

[Brakogar]

What do we want?
JUSTICE
When do we want it?
NOW

What do we want?
SERVICE
When do we want it?
NOW

What do we want?
A BLUE RESPONSE
When do we want it?
NOW

Use the above chant on the official forums RP threads. A couple of people have used it and it feels good to stand up for our rights for a change.

Honestly, I used to be a big Blizzard fan before WoW. always arguing that their games had soul in their making and that they always aimed to please their fans until now. I have bought all Blizzard games , warcraft novels and even bought a couple of action figures but they are now clearly turning their back towards us long time fans.

After this I am not really sure if it would be moraly correct tocontinue giving my money to Blizzard since they have such litle or no regard for their true fan base.

My Morale has hit the floor along with my respect for them.

[Brakogar]

I created a new thread in the General forum saying this:


Title: Blue: I can no longer call myself a Blizz Fan

Honestly, I used to be a big Blizzard fan before WoW. always arguing that their games had soul in their making and that they always aimed to please their fans. I have bought all Blizzard games , warcraft novels and even bought action figures but they are now clearly turning their back towards us long time fans in favour of the kiddies who would leave them as soon as a new game comes out.

I am refering to you ignoring the RPers plead for a response from a Blizzard representative in both the Suggestions and General forums. Both pages have reached over 20 pages with good mature suggestions and a simple request for a Blue response and yet there is non, just silence.

You have turned your back to teh fans that actualy valued your work and given your company much prestige.

After this I am not really sure if it would be moraly correct to continue giving my money to Blizzard since they have such litle or no regard for their long time fan base.

My Morale has hit the floor along with my respect for them.


They deleted it in less than a minute. Blizzard are reminding me more and more of a Fascist govenrment than a game company

[Longcat]

I say they open transfers FROM Twisting Nether TO a low pop PvP server.

The RPers will stay.

Blizzard does not transfer to different types of servers. Even if it has PvP in the name, TN will only have transfers that are RP PvP to another RP PvP only. And I really doubt Blizzard will ever change that.


If WoW's becoming that much of a source of frustration, I honestly recommend taking a break from it. Nothing 'grand' is going to change soon aside from the priest patch.

Anywho, Cay made a reply to a thread like this but said that the random content of new clothes and holiday events were there for the RPers and people who wanted to do them. They don't involve any kind of epic loots instance. And the new instances that are added now have a number of scripted events and voice acting that can bring you more into the battle as it starts. Heck, Vael states how much he's been struggling against Nef and tells you to run away or kill him and blesses the raid with the red dragon's power and each time someone dies, he tries to appologise for their death because he has no control of himself during the battle.

Server problems happen across all the servers, not just RP PvP. In the past, it was mostly large PvE and PvP servers that had all the problems. The servers are still probably the older ones that lack the power to handle the influx of players that all came in from the holidays.

As for the "l33t d00ds", just ignore them. You can't really get rid of annoying people IRL, but you can at least not listen to them in a game. Every single server will have a group of people who are just there to troll regardless if they're RP, RP PVP, PVP, or PVE. You're best off buying your own expensive private server and keep the entrance of it secret and secure by a number of passwords. Until then, there's no stopping people from joining whatever sever they want for better or worse.

[Longcat]

I created a new thread in the General forum saying this:


Title: Blue: I can no longer call myself a Blizz Fan

Honestly, I used to be a big Blizzard fan before WoW. always arguing that their games had soul in their making and that they always aimed to please their fans. I have bought all Blizzard games , warcraft novels and even bought action figures but they are now clearly turning their back towards us long time fans in favour of the kiddies who would leave them as soon as a new game comes out.

I am refering to you ignoring the RPers plead for a response from a Blizzard representative in both the Suggestions and General forums. Both pages have reached over 20 pages with good mature suggestions and a simple request for a Blue response and yet there is non, just silence.

You have turned your back to teh fans that actualy valued your work and given your company much prestige.

After this I am not really sure if it would be moraly correct to continue giving my money to Blizzard since they have such litle or no regard for their long time fan base.

My Morale has hit the floor along with my respect for them.


They deleted it in less than a minute. Blizzard are reminding me more and more of a Fascist govenrment than a game company

Maybe because no company likes Hate Mail targeted towards them.

[Brakogar]

Longcat, the point of this whole thing is that Blizzard promised us RP realms with enforced rules as a selling point to WoW and is not delivering.

To make it worse they turn their backs on the entire RP community by ignoring us.

[Longcat]

I say take RP enforcing like ganking.

GMs will only tell you to fix that through your own players.

Why not enforce RP rules to your own players? You can say they can't join in instance groups unless they RP. Guilds already enforce RP rules in having rules of guildchat is RP only. It's much more progressive taking this into actual gameplay and telling the players to RP yourself than waiting for a Blue to say a sentence where not everyone even reads the general forums.

Honestly, what will a Community Manager do besides maybe suggest to the developers that they should enforce the RP rules when they are bombarded with god knows what else from all the other forums about PvE and PvP issues which are the main core of WoW rather than telling someone to RP in a server?

[Brakogar]

Things are far deeper than that Longcat, read the forum threads.

I know that you like to argue, Longcat and I have heard your comments in game so I wont start arguing with you here. I am just getting the message accross as I am not someone that sits on his hands while people are steping on me. If you dont have an interest in the eforts to get fair treatment for the people in the official forums or believe them to be misguided then ignore it.

[Longcat]

I'm not misguided. I just don't see the point of asking for a community manager typing up a sentence and everything will be fixed.

If they don't do anything, just take it in your hands and tell people to RP on the server. It's a step forward.

[Brakogar]

Longcat I didnt say that you were misguided and WE are standing up for our rights as custumers.

I wont get baited into an argument so I have said enough of the matter to you here.

[Alucian]

I created a new thread in the General forum saying this:


Title: Blue: I can no longer call myself a Blizz Fan

Honestly, I used to be a big Blizzard fan before WoW. always arguing that their games had soul in their making and that they always aimed to please their fans. I have bought all Blizzard games , warcraft novels and even bought action figures but they are now clearly turning their back towards us long time fans in favour of the kiddies who would leave them as soon as a new game comes out.

I am refering to you ignoring the RPers plead for a response from a Blizzard representative in both the Suggestions and General forums. Both pages have reached over 20 pages with good mature suggestions and a simple request for a Blue response and yet there is non, just silence.

You have turned your back to teh fans that actualy valued your work and given your company much prestige.

After this I am not really sure if it would be moraly correct to continue giving my money to Blizzard since they have such litle or no regard for their long time fan base.

My Morale has hit the floor along with my respect for them.


They deleted it in less than a minute. Blizzard are reminding me more and more of a Fascist govenrment than a game company

If people are keeping from talking about cancelling accounts cause that might get the original thread deleted, then I'd imagine you insinuating that you might do the same got this thread deleted. And Blizzard is not bound by "free speech"...they own the forum you're posting on, they're allowed to do whatever they want. It's not being fascist, it's what Longcat said. They're trying to keep the witch hunting to a minimum.

I know everyone's just trying to help, but posting veiled threats against Blizzard is only going to assure nothing will be done. The moment we stop being constructive is the moment all the hard work people have put into that 20 page thread will go to waste.

[Brakogar]

True, that is why I posted it in a separate thread.

I just wanted to get my message across and if banning me was the consequences it was only going to happen to me.

They cant delete the other thread as it was not started by me.