Rejoice!

[Fallacy]

The new warrior changes make me giddy.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=34925108&pageNo=1

EDIT: But, now, my planned spec is messed up. I guess I'll just go Flurry, now. Or, maybe, go Endless Rage, since now that'll give me more rage than a Fury warrior.

[Keraph]

YES. YES. YEEEEEES. YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES. YES YES Y-E-S.


*Ahem* Yes. Very exciting.


PS: YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESS

[Fallacy]

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-warrior/talents.html?3502002134201052002125105050104005000 00000000000000000000000000000

PvE MS Spec Go!

I'll never have a problem with rage generation again.

[Tarlithion]

There goes Arms and Fury as decent talent trees.

Guess I'll have to go Prot =\

[Fhenrir]

Heroic Strike and Imp Charge, Fallacy?

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-warrior/talents.html?0500502132201052202125005050131005010 00000000000000000000000000000

Say hello to cookie-cutter!

[Keraph]

Cookie cutter or not, I can safely say I made this build with no outside opinion.

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-warrior/talents.html?2502502030201052300125105500104005000 00000000000000000000000000000

I looked at Death Wish.....very hard, but I think that Endless Rage has more long tem benefits. Burst damage is a little less reliable post-expansion.

[Fallacy]

Heroic Strike and Imp Charge, Fallacy?

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-warrior/talents.html?0500502132201052202125005050131005010 00000000000000000000000000000

Say hello to cookie-cutter!

Hey, I have something else to do with the talents I no longer have to put into Imp. Rend. Anything that increases my rage manageability, I like.

[Shadowspeak]

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-warrior/talents.html?0532002135201050102125105050131005000 00000000000000000000000000000

[Aquizit]

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-warrior/talents.html?3532532135251552332125155553135525212 25312512355511333322123531351

RAWR~!

[Keraph]

LOL ZOMG NERF PYLITH

[Aquizit]

lololololollollollooollolol!!!!1!!11eleven

i framed bors for wekes to get thisl vl!!

rofl lrn2grind n00b

[Zasein]

I like the Stormstike buff. Now I can constantly keep +20% to nature damage.

At least they are giving you warriors some stuff thats worthwhile.

[Karkarov]

thanks to the prot changes they just gave me two free talent points.

[Fhenrir]

thanks to the prot changes they just gave me two free talent points.

Defiance? Yeah, I believe that was the idea there.

Prot got a major buff, I think it's going to be noticably better for tanking than it is now (to the point where a DPS warrior probably won't be able to hold a candle to a prot warrior while tanking).

Hell, I can outtank a lot of prot warriors as is, and I don't have a single point in the tree. I'm glad they're making prot stand out more.

[Marroc]

Second wind will be nerfed... EVERY class has some sort of movement impairing effect....

There is NO WAY you'll be getting a 10% health regen every time your stunned... I don't see how that is remotely balanced. Everything else is nice though... Grats on the trainable tactical mastery :P

[Fallacy]

Second wind will be nerfed... EVERY class has some sort of movement impairing effect....

There is NO WAY you'll be getting a 10% health regen every time your stunned... I don't see how that is remotely balanced. Everything else is nice though... Grats on the trainable tactical mastery :P

Because warriors right now have very little to counter being kited, besides Intercept and popping the Insignia. It is very frustrating for a warrior to be fighting a mage just to be Nova'd, Blink'd away, Polymorphed, and Pyroblasted for 3K damage. It's also a talent very deep into one tree.

Funny that you say it's going to be nerfed, since it was just buffed with that health recovery this update.

[Fhenrir]

Because warriors right now have very little to counter being kited, besides Intercept and popping the Insignia. It is very frustrating for a warrior to be fighting a mage just to be Nova'd, Blink'd away, Polymorphed, and Pyroblasted for 3K damage. It's also a talent very deep into one tree.

Funny that you say it's going to be nerfed, since it was just buffed with that health recovery this update.

Qft! I might be able to actually equip something in my second trinket slot aside from my Grunt Trinket? Beautiful.

Now if only I had rolled a dwarf for the bleed immunity, I'd be set.

[Marroc]

*looks at himself*

you have more to get out of snares than me... I have vanish and imp sprint which is gimped...

I have no problem with the talent... I just think 10% is a bit much...

Warriors in TBC are averaging 10,000 health in BLUES... do you know how hard it is for anyone to burn through that much hp?

[Caelyn]

*looks at himself*

you have more to get out of snares than me... I have vanish and imp sprint which is gimped...

I have no problem with the talent... I just think 10% is a bit much...

Warriors in TBC are averaging 10,000 health in BLUES... do you know how hard it is for anyone to burn through that much hp?

Currently it will be very difficult at best, but considering how pets and stat will be scaling and changing at 70, I'm sure it will be just like buring through warriors now. Or it will just take skillz... either way, I'm looking forward to the challenge.

[Karkarov]

Not sure what you mean Fhenrir. If prot warriors are being "out tanked" by you that could mean alot of different things. Anyway I love the new anticipation skill now +20 instead of +10.

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-warrior/talents.html?0500400000000000000000000000000000000 00000000355511033022103531351

[Fhenrir]

Eh, I would consider myself pretty good at tanking. However! I have met a very quality tank in particular that uses a "cookie-cutter" 31/5/15 build for some tanking utility. I'm a 31/20/0 build, and I'm able to tank on par with him despite his points in defiance.

*shrugs*

Just seems like prot will be noticably more powerful for tanking in the expansion, especially considering the pretty little 41-point talent.

[Shadowspeak]

that 41 prot talent -is- really sexy.

In fact I think I'm getting a clue right now.

[EnheilRas]

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-warrior/talents.html?0500400000000000000000000000000000000 00000000355511033022103531351#none

I am thinking... Because I'd really like to try a fury warrior next time..

[Karkarov]

Well thats because he is a cookie cutter, and in my opinion weak, "pretend tank" build. Being a tank isnt just about getting and holding aggro. And you would be surprised by how key the current talents of improved sunder and shield slam are for holding that aggro though, imp sunder is easily as important as defiance if not more.

Edit: Tanking is 75% about mitigation, nothing in the arms/fury tree helps mitigate other than 5 points in the parry talent. Prot warriors are the MT's because they just take less damage, period. Any warrior can generate aggro. The trade is you pretty much suck or are just passable at everything else.