Worgen Druids.....

[Creedy]

Does anyone else have trouble wrapping their minds around this one? How do humans that embrace their animalistic side suddenly become attuned to nature and want to be tree huggers that are capable of assuming several animal forms? I mean I understand the “animalistic” nature that becoming a wolf man can make you love animals more… but how does that imbue one suddenly with the ability to transform into the various animal forms that Elven and Tauren Druids have worked at for thousands of years? Troll Druids were explained in the Zandalar event, but I feel I need a bit more “clarity” on this subject when it comes to the Worgen.

Any help or discussion would be appreciated.

[Emyi]

Short version:

The Worgen were originally Druids of the Claw, a Night Elf sect way back when. They basically became wild and feral due to Goldrinn's death or corruption, I forget which. They completely lost their Night Elven form and became fully feral Worgen. The Worgen then curse the Humans of Gilneas by wounding them [Thanks to Argual] and the Humans end up becoming Worgen and becoming feral for nearly a year before there is a cure. Once the cure is administered, by a night elf, the Humans have control of the Worgen form. The Night Elves teach them druidism, seeing as how they are very closely tied to Goldrinn and Ancient Night elves.

I will get more details when I am not swamped with work.
Edit: I believe this is the general idea. Correct me if I am wrong, someone.

[Necroxis]

Ancient Worgen were once Night Elven druids. They lost themselves to madness by staying in that form for too long (Like we see in Warcraft 3).

Unless they changed the starting zone, Gilnean Humans already developed an extremely basic form of Druidry based around the Harvest.

Worgen Druids don't seem very much the "tree hugger" type of Druid. They're savage, primal, the way Ancient Worgen were. Once Gilneans become Worgen, the Night Elves just teach them extensive Druidism.

Emyi beat me, the bastard.

[Emyi]

The worgen are a race of feral wolf-beasts whose very name inspires fear.

Records indicate that the worgen existed for a time in Kalimdor. In fact, more recent evidence suggested that their true origin might have a connection to the night elves and a secretive druidic order from Kalimdor's distant past. This proved to be correct as the curse originated from a druidic sect who followed Goldrinn, known as Druids of the Scythe. They shapeshifted into the feral worgen and eventually lost their minds to its violent nature. The other Druids agreed that they must be locked away, and thus put them into eternal slumber deep beneath a tree... until the day Arugal and Velinde Starsong tampered with the Scythe of Elune. It was the night elves, after all, who created the curse in the first place. Obliged to help their newfound allies, they re-introduce them to the Alliance.[1]

The worgen's first verified appearance in the Eastern Kingdoms has been traced back to the Third War, when the archmage Arugal utilized the wolf-beasts as a weapon against the Scourge. Arugal's weapons soon turned against him, however, as the curse of the worgen rapidly spread among the human population, transforming ordinary men and women into ravenous, feral creatures.

Arugal adopted many of the worgen as his own and retreated to the former mansion of Baron Silverlaine, the estate now known as Shadowfang Keep. The curse, however, was not contained. It persisted in the lands of Silverpine and extended even into the fabled walled nation of Gilneas, where the curse rapidly reached pandemic levels.

The citizens of Gilneas found themselves trapped, with no hope of escape. They retreated deeper within the isolated domain, and there they survived, fearful of the savage presence that lurked just outside the barricades.

Tensions among the displaced citizens escalated over time, resulting in a civil war that now threatens to destabilize the embattled nation even more.

There are those among the Gilneans, however, who cling to hope. Many believe that a cure for the worgen curse may exist, although others have nearly given up, fearful that if the barricades should fall, their humanity will be lost forever.

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Druid

As stated above the worgen curse was created by night elf druids, and that the night elves feel somewhat responsible and are helping the worgen fight for their city. During this time the night elves have taught the worgen the terms of magic that led to their creation, druidism.

wowpedia.org

http://www.wowpedia.org/Worgen_%28playable%29

[Swerto]

ACTUALLY.

There are druids in Gilneas that are humans. They aren't like the night elf druids, in that they don't have the shape shifting or the total embracing with nature thing, but they did commune with nature and call upon its powers. They were almost like wild mages. As soon as they meet the Night Elves, the Night Elves of course teach them more about druidism.

[Creedy]

I thought that the Worgen appeared because of the Scythe of Elune, (which from what I understood was a staff that opened a portal from another world in which Wolf creatures battled an evil). Both of the below quotes come from wowpedia:


“Holding the scythe in her hands, [Velinde Starsong] received a vision of chaos. Wolf-men, the worgen, battled an incredible enemy. The worgen fought savagely, as fit their primitive race, but they faced an unflinching enemy: Lords of the Emerald Flame”

and...


“By further channeling the energy of the Scythe, the barriers of time and space weakened, and [Velinde Starsong] was able to draw the worgen into the world of Azeroth.”

I know of the ancient Druids of the Scythe as well... but I am confused.... Are they related to the Scythe of Elune? The explanation of worgen that were once human is:


Once Gilneans become Worgen, the Night Elves just teach them extensive Druidism.

That’s it? Rather lame if you ask me considering several facts. If the Elves feel responsible for the Worgen incursion on Gilneas, it should be due to the Scythe if anything, and not the Ancient Druids of the Claw. I don’t understand why the Elves feel responsible regardless…. Arugal created the Worgen issue near Gilneas, NOT the Night Elves:


“Arugal used Ur's research to summon extra-dimensional entities to bolster Dalaran's diminishing ranks of his own. Arugal's summoning brought the ravenous worgen into the world of Azeroth.”

So….. based on this… I have a hard time understanding the implications the Lore makes for Worgen/Human Druids and their relationship with the Elves. Am I bonkers?

[Creedy]

OK.. to make this MORE convoluted, I found this:


There is a recovered journal found in Gilneas labelled Faded Journal, that tells more of these druids. It seems that some of the druids never were captured and left the night elven lands. It speaks of the pack and how it became increasingly savage. It also spoke of a druid named Ralaar Fangfire who seemed to have mastered the form. He as far as we know is the current head of the Druids of the Scythe.

So..... Feral Elven/Worgen druids were not caught and left the Elven lands. Does this mean they made it to Gilneas as well?

Shit this gets murky.

[Swerto]

No, Gilnean worgen are due to Arugal not the Scythe. Scythe is where the duskwood and felwood worgen came from.

Go do the bottany wing of tempest keep, you'll notice there are blood elf druids, though they're different than night elf druids because they don't take forms. Druidism was widespread in the Eastern Kingdoms long ago, but by this point it has become a little practiced art in favor of the arcane.

[Emyi]

Druidism isn't race specific, it is just some races tend to be more in tune with it. There have been recordings of dwarven druids even. And honestly, given the Draenei's relationship with the elements through Shamanism, it wouldn't be a stretch for them to dabble in druidism.

But, there were two separate incidents with Worgen.

You have the Scythe of Elune worgen that were the completely feral night elves that were dormant in the Emerald Dream. The Scythe pulled them from their bindings and put under 'control' of Velinde. These are the worgen you find in Ashenvale, Felwood and Duskwood. The Scythe disappeared for a long time and supposedly reappeared in Northrend with the Wolfcult and Arugal and gang.

The other incident of Worgen was with Ur and Arugal. Her summoned these "extra dimensional' beings from the Emerald Dream, though he did not know it. These were also cursed and corrupted night elves stuck in this 'wolven' form given to them by Goldrinn. These same Worgen invaded Gilneas and turned nearly all the population into feral worgen.

The Night elves came along and helped to 'fix' the problems that were originally their fault. The Night Elves found out the Worgen were once Night Elves themselves. They took it upon their shoulders as their burden. They helped the humans of Gilneas control this problem instead of locking them up in the Emerald Dream only to have it rise up again.

And as Swerto said, the humans of Gilneas that are basically 'wild mages' who pull their powers from nature. Arcane energies are everywhere. In every living thing. These nature mages were basically prot-druids/shamans.

[Creedy]

No, Gilnean worgen are due to Arugal not the Scythe. Scythe is where the duskwood and felwood worgen came from.

Go do the bottany wing of tempest keep, you'll notice there are blood elf druids, though they're different than night elf druids because they don't take forms. Druidism was widespread in the Eastern Kingdoms long ago, but by this point it has become a little practiced art in favor of the arcane.

So then why is the Scythe of Elune found in Gilneas?


In Cataclysm

This section concerns content exclusive to Cataclysm.

The Scythe of Elune will be found in Gilneas, where it will play a major part of the Worgen starting questline. Players must recover the Scythe from the Forsaken, who stole it from the druids in the Blackwald.

[Emyi]

I know at one point in time, they mentioned the Scythe being there in Gilneas, but from what I have seen from the Beta, that story arch has changed.

If it is there in Gilneas, it is being used by the Night Elves to help the Gilnean worgen, having been recovered from Northrend.

Edit:

Follow the source on wowpedia.


The artifact is none other than the Scythe of Elune.

After recovering the artifact you're presented with an interesting story -- one that even surprised me. The Worgen curse originated from a sect of Druids who followed Goldrinn, Druids of the Scythe. They shapeshifted into the feral Worgen form and eventually lost their minds to its violent nature. The other Druids agreed that these Worgen must be locked away, and thus put them into eternal slumber deep beneath a tree... until the day Arugal tampered with the Scythe of Elune. Freeing the Worgen unleashed the curse upon the populace and ultimately caused the situation you and your people are now in. At the end of this sequence, the Night Elves feel it's their place to help the Gilneans. It was the Night Elves, after all, who created the curse in the first place. They teach you to gain control of the Worgen, and while you're not permanently cured, this is how you learn Two Forms -- your racial that allows you to shift between Human and Worgen

http://www.worldofraids.com/topic/17055-cataclysm-hands-on-worgen-starting-experience/

[Creedy]

These were also cursed and corrupted night elves stuck in this 'wolven' form given to them by Goldrinn. These same Worgen invaded Gilneas and turned nearly all the population into feral worgen.

What says they are the same? According to the quotes above, Velinde saw the Wolf creatures fighting the "Lords of Emerald Flame" on their world. So this army is invading the Emerald Dream?

That doesn't make sense. That leads me to believe that there is a world outside of the Spirit world known as the Emerald Dream where Worgen type creatures exist, and it is THOSE Worgen that the Sycthe pulled into Azaroth, and they are not originally Elves.

I thought Arugal used the research from the Book of Ur.... not the Sycthe.


Arugal used Ur's research to summon extra-dimensional entities to bolster Dalaran's diminishing ranks of his own. Arugal's summoning brought the ravenous worgen into the world of Azeroth. ^- He didn't use the Scythe.

Shit, Blizzard needs to keep their lore straight.

Here is the book.


The land of Azeroth is host to no end of wonders. Flora, fauna, cultures, and magic all teem across its surface. Indeed, the curious will find limitless variety on this world. One merely has to look. But if one looks deeply enough then windows to entire new worlds are found, and each world is home to its own wonders. Just as each world is home to its own horrors.

This is the purpose of my book: to catalogue those beings, those otherworldly fiends who would destroy our lands, so that explorers who happen upon them will know what they face. So if you consider yourself a guardian of Azeroth, then read on. And know your enemy.

-Ur
Mage of Dalaran


The fiend of which I write is the Worgen. Old, rural folklore may hearken to these creatures. For what farmer's child has not heard tales of beastly wolf-men stalking the fields and marshes outside his village? And truth may hide in such tales--perhaps they are warnings against the Worgen, veiled as myths to frighten us. But before such tales are dismissed, let me now assure the reader: Worgen are real. They may not be from our world, but avenues exist between their home and ours and powerful magic can pull them here. Such chants are best left unuttered. For where ever the Worgen tread, they bring terror and bloodshed with them.

You will know the Worgen by its resemblance to the wolves of our world. When viewing a worgen one can easily see its coarse hair, pointed ears, and long snout are akin to the wolves we know. But you will just as quickly see its differences: that coarse hair surrounds a powerful, two-legged body sporting long fangs and dagger-like claws. And behind it's howl lurks a malevolence possessed by no natural beast.

The worgen's home is a dark place, a place of nightmare. If that world fosters locations safe from the cursed Worgen, then my research has revealed no such bastions. And if one considers the ferocity and wickedness of the Worgen, it is likely that no such bastions exist. It is surmised that the Worgen are content to remain on their world, for although some Worgen possess powerful magic, they have made no attempts to reach Azeroth of their own accord. And for this, we are fortunate.

As mentioned above, some Worgen are skilled in the mystic arts, and their magic is of darkness and corruption. Curses and supernatural poisons are common, so be forewarned--those who face the worgen should arm themselves with wards against shadow.

It is my hope that no Dalaran wizard seeks out the Worgen, even if done in light conscience. For no pact may be struck, no secrets may be learned, no good can come from these beasts. They are best left to their world. For if found in ours and not destroyed, our peril will be dire...

I appreciate your input guys.

[Creedy]

The artifact is none other than the Scythe of Elune.

After recovering the artifact you're presented with an interesting story -- one that even surprised me. The Worgen curse originated from a sect of Druids who followed Goldrinn, Druids of the Scythe. They shapeshifted into the feral Worgen form and eventually lost their minds to its violent nature. The other Druids agreed that these Worgen must be locked away, and thus put them into eternal slumber deep beneath a tree... until the day Arugal tampered with the Scythe of Elune. Freeing the Worgen unleashed the curse upon the populace and ultimately caused the situation you and your people are now in. At the end of this sequence, the Night Elves feel it's their place to help the Gilneans. It was the Night Elves, after all, who created the curse in the first place. They teach you to gain control of the Worgen, and while you're not permanently cured, this is how you learn Two Forms -- your racial that allows you to shift between Human and Worgen


So.... this is the ret con Blizzard made? Wow.... that is really lame in my opinion.

[Necroxis]

It was always that:

Arugal used Ur's research to summon the Worgen on his own. The Worgen curse spread through Pyrewood and eventually made it's way into Gilneas.

While Velinde prayed to Elune to fight the Burning Legion and was given the Scythe instead. The story of the Scythe is documented across several quests but basically: Velinde vanishes and the Scythe seems lost until Jitters pulls it from a cave in Duskwood and summons more Worgen.

The Scythe vanishes again and ends up in Northrend where the Alliance mistakenly deliver it right into Arugal's hands. After the Shade's defeat, the Scythe disappears again.

It then reappears in Gilneas as the Forsaken steal it from the Druids at Blackwald (Which is where the Druids of the Scythe were imprisoned into the Emerald Dream at). There's never really documentation how the Scythe went from Velinde to Duskwood to Northrend to Gilneas.

I'm not sure where you're seeing a retcon at.

Let's also note that the in-game sources regarding the: "Lords of the Emerald Flame" and this "other world" are incredibly vague and should probably be taken with a grain of salt because it can be interpreted many different ways.

[Emyi]

Lords of the Emerald Flame and the Other World could easily be the Emerald Dream and the Emerald Nightmare and Nightmare Dragons.

Edit: Also, Necro hit the nail on the head.

[Creedy]

I suppose its not a Ret con, so much as it is a cop out in my opinion. My confusion is what the Scythe does (does it pull Elvish feral Worgen from the Emerald Dream, or does it pull them from another world) and if Arugal used Ur's reserach originally to summon Worgen on his own, why would he need the Staff later in Northrend? Did the Pyrewood Village experiment fail, and he thought he needed the staff to control the Worgen? If so, then he's a moron because control over the Worgen with the Staff didn't work for Velinde either.

These questions and definitions are important in knowing who created the Worgen issue in Gilneas, and who is ultimately responsible. I am suggesting that the Night Elves are not.


"Let's also note that the in-game sources regarding the: "Lords of the Emerald Flame" and this "other world" are incredibly vague and should probably be taken with a grain of salt because it can be interpreted many different ways. "
The Book of Ur states the Worgen are from a "dark, nightmarish world". That sure doesn't sound like the Emerald Dream to me. These little indicators seem to stack against that theory is all I am saying.

Based on this discussion thus far, it seems that Arugal is responsble for the Worgen plauge. If this is the case... I ask again: why do the Night Elves feel responsible? Their Druids of the Scythe (Pack, whatever) were feral and put alseep under a tree. We have established that these Worgen were NOT summoned by Arugal or Velinde. Some of the Night Elf/Feral Worgens escaped... but Arugal summoned Worgens near to Gilneas.


Lords of the Emerald Flame and the Other World could easily be the Emerald Dream and the Emerald Nightmare and Nightmare Dragons.

That is an interesting perspective... I will have to look into that... thanks.


Knowing this, I guess I still don't know the Night Elves feel responsible for Gilneas and what their motive is for teaching druidism to human/Worgens, over not teaching it to humans in general.

[Emyi]

Knowing this, I guess I still don't know the Night Elves feel responsible for Gilneas and what their motive is for teaching druidism to human/Worgens, over not teaching it to humans in general.

Night Elves live a long ass time, so most of them were probably around when the Worgen fled Kalimdor. The Night Elves let them slumber beneath the tree in the human kingdoms knowing they could be a threat if they awoke. The Night Elves basically swept them under a rug and pretended they were gone. And when their dirty little secret woke up, well, then they felt bad, so they sought out a way to repent. They helped teach the Gilneans how to control this worgen form and taught them where it came from. Some Gilneans probably became fascinated with this and now having a solid connection with the Night Elves, sought out Druidism fully. Others obviously chose different classes. XD

These humans are damned and outcast and it is the Night elves fault to being so foolish. Repent for your sins!

[Evanthe]

The Book of Ur states the Worgen are from a "dark, nightmarish world". That sure doesn't sound like the Emerald Dream to me.

Really? That sounds exactly like the Emerald Nightmare/ Dream to me...

[Creedy]

And when their dirty little secret woke up, well, then they felt bad, so they sought out a way to repent.

See? I guess I just don't buy that. The Elves didn't see that Arugal summoned them on his own? I just don't think that the Worgens that he summoned were the same as the Elven Worgens in the past... and that is where I have difficulty. If the lore can connect the Druids of the Scythe with Arugal's Worgens... I might be convinced.

Until then, I guess I won't see Worgen Druids as a rich and viable RP. :(


Really? That sounds exactly like the Emerald Nightmare/ Dream to me...

Yea... I didn't really read up on that. I just pictured the Worgens from another world entirely.... not the Emerald Dream/Nightmare. I am reading up on it now, as I am not familiar with it.

[Lythas]

Night Elves live a long ass time, so most of them were probably around when the Worgen fled Kalimdor. The Night Elves let them slumber beneath the tree in the human kingdoms knowing they could be a threat if they awoke. The Night Elves basically swept them under a rug and pretended they were gone. And when their dirty little secret woke up, well, then they felt bad, so they sought out a way to repent. They helped teach the Gilneans how to control this worgen form and taught them where it came from. Some Gilneans probably became fascinated with this and now having a solid connection with the Night Elves, sought out Druidism fully. Others obviously chose different classes. XD

These humans are damned and outcast and it is the Night elves fault to being so foolish. Repent for your sins!

It's always the night elves ruining somebody's day, whether they tear apart the world, invite Old Golds, or turning people into wolves :(

[Ackley]

ACTUALLY.

There are druids in Gilneas that are humans. They aren't like the night elf druids, in that they don't have the shape shifting or the total embracing with nature thing, but they did commune with nature and call upon its powers. They were almost like wild mages. As soon as they meet the Night Elves, the Night Elves of course teach them more about druidism.

That is how I am roleplaying mine. I read up on the Druids of the Scythe or whatever that originated in Blackwald forest.

I have no trouble in believing Worgen Druids

[Emyi]

It's always the night elves ruining somebody's day, whether they tear apart the world, invite Old Golds, or turning people into wolves :(

Or debate economics and ashenvale.

[Necroxis]

There's no proof that there are two separate "worlds" the Worgen are coming from. You're just refusing to believe the in-game lore refers to the Emerald Dream. They feel guilty because the initial Worgen were their fault. It's pretty simple.

[Ackley]

Or debate economics and ashenvale.

Or those stupid gnomes who have to beat a dead horse.

[Creedy]

There's no proof that there are two separate "worlds" the Worgen are coming from. You're just refusing to believe the in-game lore refers to the Emerald Dream. They feel guilty because the initial Worgen were their fault. It's pretty simple.

I have difficulty with it because in all the MANY references to lore that are currently there do not state anything at all about the Emerald Dream/Nightmare. I have read a lot and the theory that they are from that place does seem to be the majority vote, but how would an Dalaran mage named Ur have access to knowledge of summoning things from that dream when he dabbles in arcane magic, and not natural magic.

I am just saying there are leaps you have to take to make such assumptions... that's all.

[Emyi]

http://wow.joystiq.com/2010/10/27/know-your-lore-the-tinfoil-hat-worgen-edition/

Thank you WoW.com for reading out minds and putting it down into one compiled article.

Go read. Basically what we have been tryingto say.

[Keraph]

http://wow.joystiq.com/2010/10/27/know-your-lore-the-tinfoil-hat-worgen-edition/

Thank you WoW.com for reading out minds and putting it down into one compiled article.

Go read. Basically what we have been tryingto say.

I'm not gonna lie, there's parts of this that could make a LOT of sense.

[Creedy]

http://wow.joystiq.com/2010/10/27/know-your-lore-the-tinfoil-hat-worgen-edition/

Thank you WoW.com for reading out minds and putting it down into one compiled article.

Go read. Basically what we have been tryingto say.


Ok..... I can see the plausability there, thanks for the link. I wasn't trying to be stubborn or difficult, I just had a hard time wrapping my head around all the various factors. That brings everything together nicely.

I have to say though...


"We know that the high elven descendants of the Highborne kaldorei can breed with humans. Perhaps night elves can as well? We have Arator the Redeemer and the children of Rhonin and Vereesa Windrunner to attest to elf/human interfertility. (And apparently, we also know Windrunner sisters are warm for human forms.)"

This right here made me laugh. I think its possible that if this Know Your Lore becomes widely accepted as truth, we will see an influx of Half human- half elven characters pop up.....

Go clichés!!

[Keraph]

Fortunately it's a Tinfoil Hat edition, that is meant to be taken with some level of acknowledgement that it's not necessarily canon, just supposition.

[Necroxis]

What made you laugh about that paragraph? Humans and Elves can mate, it's not made up. Just like Orcs and Draenei can. I don't think the information was hidden or suppressed. MOST people understand that playing one of the races in WoW means you're not a half breed.

[Creedy]

What made you laugh about that paragraph? Humans and Elves can mate, it's not made up. Just like Orcs and Draenei can. I don't think the information was hidden or suppressed. MOST people understand that playing one of the races in WoW means you're not a half breed.

Totally forgot about this thread... apologies. Um... I laughed not because I thought it was made up or absurd... but that Half elves are so cliche in other RPGs... if people knew that they could be a half elf (like people think that can be a dragon secretly disguised as a bloodelf), they would be more common.

[Necroxis]

People can really be whatever they want, but they don't because most people, like I said, understand that if you're one of the races in WoW, you're not a halfbreed.

And I really don't see what's wrong with being a Half Elf (In other mediums) if they're done correctly. Sort of how like bad Rpers gave Belfs a bad name. I sort of feel like if we give them the benefit of hating that race because of how bad they are, we're letting them win.

I just never roll a Belf because I could never leave the Alliance for any length of time.

[Creedy]

Never said I hated, or people shouldn't RP half races. My sense of humor is different than yours, thats all. I find it funny... you take it personally. Chill.

Grusfraba.

[Necroxis]

Actually I wasn't taking it personally at all, I dont play any kinds of those characters. I was merely arguing against your generalized statement of "Half-Elves are so cliche." And that this sentence doesn't make much sense to me:


if people knew that they could be a half elf (like people think that can be a dragon secretly disguised as a bloodelf), they would be more common.

Because I'm fairly positive any RPer with a lick of salt realizes they could do that if they wanted, it would just be extremely frowned upon.

Im always of the opinion that people should be free to RP whatever they want and no one really has any place to judge them unless they're directly affecting you in some way. There were people in IS back wayyyyy long ago (2+ years) when I was in it that Rped the child of Jaina and Arthas. I didn't tell them what they were doing was wrong, I just didn't associate with them...

Just happened to have occurred more than a few times so I jumped ship.

[Chikt]

I AM A HUMAN THAT IS A WEREWOLF THAT CAN BE A BEAR, BIRD, TREE, CHICKEN, CAT OR OTHER CAT.

[Lysimachus]

I AM A HUMAN THAT IS A WEREWOLF THAT CAN BE A BEAR, BIRD, TREE, CHICKEN, CAT OR OTHER CAT.

This made me lol. It will be like a dream come true for many elven Rpers I've encountered in the past...

[Creedy]

I AM A HUMAN THAT IS A WEREWOLF THAT CAN BE A BEAR, BIRD, TREE, CHICKEN, CAT OR OTHER CAT.

Your forgot Giant Bird Owl haha.

I was thinking about making a Worgen druids that will have the furbold shifter thing, an Orb of Deception, Arrakoa shape changer, the Simian Sphere and the Orge thing....

And call myself.... <the Shifter>.

Zomg I am a genius.


I was merely arguing. <- fixed. :-)

The cliche remark was based on OTHER RPs that I have been involved with (LOTR, almost ANY fantasy based RPG, etc)... not just WoW.... I hope that clears up your confusion.


Im always of the opinion that people should be free to RP whatever they want and no one really has any place to judge them unless they're directly affecting you in some way. There were people in IS back wayyyyy long ago (2+ years) when I was in it that Rped the child of Jaina and Arthas. I didn't tell them what they were doing was wrong, I just didn't associate with them...

Come on... when people do that... you judge.... don't lie. I laugh AND I judge.......

[Chikt]

Your forgot Giant Bird Owl haha.

See: Chicken.

You should get the quest item from Grizzly Hills border that turns you into a wolf, too.

[Creedy]

See: Chicken.

You should get the quest item from Grizzly Hills border that turns you into a wolf, too.

hahaha. Since the Worgen have two forms, I think the Worgen Druid then has the potential for being the coolest circus freak sideshow class available.

" Come see the Man who is part werewolf/wolf/chicken/catwolf/bear/furlbog/gorilla/tree/crow/orge/skeleton/bat/cheetah! Only 15g to request a shape!"

Whew.... though Creedy would be happy tp be that Druid's marketing agent.

[Anthek]

See: Chicken.

You should get the quest item from Grizzly Hills border that turns you into a wolf, too.

A one time thing that only works in that zone? There's a better item for that, that can be made with Inscription.

[Smoldergear]

I AM A HUMAN THAT IS A WEREWOLF THAT CAN BE A BEAR, BIRD, TREE, CHICKEN, CAT OR OTHER CAT.

Fish. That's the one you forgot.