[FEEDBACK] Horde Guild Meets

[Chikt]

I've had this idea floating around in my head for a while now.

It's been attempted in past to get Horde guilds RPing together by having some sort of official event. In pas t they were war meetings or in-character World PvP discussion.

The issue I always felt that these had was the fact that they were too organized. The whole event had speakers, only certain people could speak at any given time, for 90% of people attending it was simply a stand by and watch deal.

What I'm suggesting is a gathering of the guilds in the Horde with no particular purpose other than to gather and talk. One of the issues I've felt we always had was that it was difficult to get people involved in threads on the TNG, or in RP that actually takes place in the game outside of your guild. This wouldn't be an entirely social event - I sort of consider it akin to a campfire thing.

People gather, there's no organization to how it all plays out, people just talk. If somebody wants to bring something to the attention to the gathered groups - which there probably will be from week to week - the gathering is told to quiet down for a few moments. The person speaks and people are allowed to return to their discussions. There's simply no keeping a large group of people organized ICly, everybody has an opinion. It's difficult enough to organize one guild, let alone several.

The basic intent is that people get together and RP in places and with other people that they've not RPed with before. It also allows relationships between guilds to be founded. Warsong Liberators and Frostwolf Brotherhood may decide to start working on combat tactics together. The Raven Cross might decide to lend some of its members to the Blades of Lordaeron to assist with some spelunking. That sort of thing.

It would probably happen every two weeks or so. I wouldn't want to make it so sparse as being monthly. I wouldn't want it to happen so often as weekly or people would get burned out and run out of matters to discuss.

I'm sure there was more I was thinking, but this is just the very foundation of the idea at the very least.

[Sörröw]

Sounds very much like what Taverns are for.. and I mean that to read.. it already happens.

I think you have a different direction than just 'social RP' and would want it to occur more often and have more direct involvement in the lives of the characters (like you suggested talking of helping others/world pvp/tactics..)

I think it would go over rather nicely.. might get some people out of general chat for a while if they are RPers.

I say just set a date.. and keep it coming each month or bi-weekly and I'm sure the #'s will increase. In other words, do it and it will happen :)

[Chikt]

Sounds very much like what Taverns are for.. and I mean that to read.. it already happens.

I think you have a different direction than just 'social RP' and would want it to occur more often and have more direct involvement in the lives of the characters (like you suggested talking of helping others/world pvp/tactics..)

I think it would go over rather nicely.. might get some people out of general chat for a while if they are RPers.

I say just set a date.. and keep it coming each month or bi-weekly and I'm sure the #'s will increase. In other words, do it and it will happen :)

It's a bit more official and a bit less casual social than just a night at the tavern. It's certainly not far from it, sure, but it's a bit more serious.

It's not an "official business, only one person speaks at a time, we have an event organizer that will dictate how things go" deal. It's still a social thing. But it's not "bring your Blood Elf drama to work" day, either.

[Sörröw]

Exactly!

That's why I see it working like a Tavern but being more exclusive in an "invite only" (though not individuals but by guilds) and in an area that people would not necessarily stumble over (don't put it in a tavern).

I still think it is the same.. just a different direction (ie: more serious). So, I do not see why it wouldn't work unless you did not have the cooperation of guilds around you. But, I think guilds are more willing to come to things as a group than individuals are to show up individually. (EG: If you invite a guild, generally the whole guild shows up.. if you invite individuals.. it's hit or miss)

Again, go for it :) Sounds like a great thing.

[Cristok]

I tried something very similar to this with the 'Free Horde' council. Definatley too formal that. I just like making lists of things...

Make the event and I'd be glad to send some Grims! Sundays and Wednesdays are my choice for a date.

Also we may find that you get a bunch of Horde togther and all of a sudden everyone is chomping at the bit to go raid an Alliance city or something. Not a bad thing that.

[Cyrass]

If I remember correctly, back in the day the nether counsel was actually fairly successful in doing something similar. Unless Drae says otherwise, I'd be willing to put Frostwolf's name into the hat for organizing something like this.

[Abric]

What Dio is saying now is complete opposite of what the Nether Council was - and anything that isn't the Nether Council is a good thing ... that complete cluster fuck was the seed to which has grown this tree that has the horde rp community so divided.

Start small, grow big. Because the guilds out there who RP (or have RPers in it) are still so varied, something less formal and open to the different "ideas" of what we do will be a lot more successful than something structured, where opinions are forced and/or recited to a captive audience.


There's simply no keeping a large group of people organized ICly, everybody has an opinion. It's difficult enough to organize one guild, let alone several.

I don't get that statement though, but maybe it isn't meant to stand on its own? Are you saying this wouldn't be in character ... or are you saying you find it difficult to keep a group quiet without reverting to the players telling the other players to be quiet?

[Chikt]

I don't get that statement though, but maybe it isn't meant to stand on its own? Are you saying this wouldn't be in character ... or are you saying you find it difficult to keep a group quiet without reverting to the players telling the other players to be quiet?

Exactly the latter.

RPers by their own nature are going to have a hard time shutting up. What I was saying is that I've had a hard enough time telling people in RC at our guild meetings to ICly shut their mouths and have them LISTEN. There is simply no point even trying to get people to be quiet and follow some sort of formal system at an event that has several guilds - because of all the differing opinions, it just just dissolves into a mess of text and people yelling over one another to make their opinion heard.

At least with a non-formal situation people split off into their own groups to discuss matters, or a topic is simply set rather than being opened to debate. And we can purposefully avoid matters that are going to raise differing opinions, to AVOID the whole thing just becoming an absolute mess.

[Imirak]

Why can't we just agree on a time and place and all of the horde guilds put it on their in-game calendar? That should be enough organization to get a good headcount?

Hell, the alliance guilds could put in on theirs, too.

[Raynell]

This sounds like a great event to send the Liberators to.

We promise not to bring our dramaz, k?

[Raziel]

Bringing the Wardroom in eh?

[Alphaeus]

I think I remember some kind of guild faire idea at some point, perhaps a couple years ago? Some informal affair where guilds met up in a city and RP'd together... something-something.

On another server I went to an interesting 'Annual Lore Fair'. There was a theme (Tauren lore), and some gameshow styled lore pop-quiz team challenge. As an outsider, I was kind of (horrifically) bored, but I can see how a community of people who're familiar with each other could have fun with that.

A major problem facing any event - even ones as simple as the City of the Day - is that people will segregate themselves into the familiar. While they might still make connections from other people in the area, there is a very obvious feeling of breaking off into their own little groups. I have a strong memory of being at a big ball event, and intentionally drifting from cluster to cluster, being generally ignored despite social pleasantries.

[Irithel]

I remember Feral hosted a couple of storytelling gatherings that were quite nice.

Either way feel free to send any invites to Iribelle in-game and I can shake some RPers out of the woodworks if I can.

(I bring no belf drama, I bring DEMON VAMPIRE BLOODSUCKING ALIEN GOAT DRAMA!)

...kidding. mostly.

[Oraph]

Dammit unulu, I was about to do a post like that. eh.

Anyway, a first meeting idea for the horde would be to bring all those RP-* guild to one location (I have one in mind which it big and would be good for this), and having those guild have a represent speaking at turns on the purpose of their guild. Of course all guildless RPers would be invite too, a good opportunity for recruitment.

Afterward those horde guild could have a sort of treaty between all of them or between some guilds. This would of course be a start for a monthly / weekly event of guilds together, then could come some celebration and world pvp attack or defence.

[Ansha]

Man that sounds just like that last thing Domni of <Quill & Copper> threw.

[Keraph]

Let us know then, and Infection will come play :3

[Urivial]

Pick your location carefully Horde scum... -eyes slowly narrow-


... Mostly not because of me, mostly because of those guys -gestures at HRA-

[Duroxas]

Pale Heart would show, id make sure of that. Course we'd be chewed out and eaten for our heathen ideals, but show up none the less! :3

[Erohol]

Pale Heart would show, id make sure of that. Course we'd be chewed out and eaten for our heathen ideals, but show up none the less! :3

Or, y'know, we could just hear about it from someone else and say "Oh, cool. When is it?"

And stop misleading these people.

We do not have "heathen ideals."

We're just secretly working for the

[Duroxas]

We're just secretly working for the

You shouldnt be mentioning the

[Ansha]

We're just secretly working for the CRIMSON YETI You shouldnt be mentioning the CRIMSON YETI

I KNEW IT!

[Erohol]

I KNEW IT!

Crimson Yeti? Psh.

He can't hold a candle to

[Oraph]

We to not speak of the cimsion yeti and its minions. They are more terrible then sargeras himself !


Now that we somewhat have an approval of a lot of guilds, should we start working on a date for a meeting :D ?

Weekend / Week / w.e

[Cristok]

I r a noob with forums.

I wanted to link my past efforts at a summit meeting type thing. Hope it is helpful despite the terrible writing.

http://www.wow-tng.org/showthread.php?t=15565&highlight=Cristok%27s+Collusion