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Shadowspeak
09-12-2006, 05:59 PM
ALot of Forsaken are Quel'dorie, in fact I think Skyze plays as one.
What will be the relationship between the two? I'm guessing the Forsaken and Bloodelves will be interested allies, as the rest of the horde DESPISES both of them (but Bloodelves moreso).
Nadea
09-12-2006, 06:00 PM
ALot of Forsaken are Quel'dorie, in fact I think Skyze plays as one.
What will be the relationship between the two? I'm guessing the Forsaken and Bloodelves will be interested allies, as the rest of the horde DESPISES both of them (but Bloodelves moreso).
Yeah, he does, but you'll have to talk to him about his whole backround...thing. =D
Chavie
09-12-2006, 06:20 PM
ove Sylvanas, and the Forsaken worship her..
They both felt fothe Alliance wed their lands.
And, Horde tends not to might spite will be on somor once.
Shadowspeak
09-12-2006, 06:25 PM
Forsaken worship her...
See, I know she lead the Forsaken but... I don't really like her...at least none of my characters do (except my warrior because he was in the battle that re-took Lordearon from the dreadlord whats-his-name). I just reckon she leads them, and while some remain terribly loyal, I don't.
But, all of my characters (again, except my warrior) woke up after he Undercity had allready been built and done with.
Daala
09-12-2006, 06:26 PM
ALot of Forsaken are Quel'dorie, in fact I think Skyze plays as one.Do you mean lore-wise, or alot of folks we know?
Lore-wise, it's a huge stretch. Daala is an Elven Forsaken, and it was a tough sell for myself. About 99.9% of the Forsaken is composed of humans that died to Ner'zhul's psychic plague. Every female Elf that was either slain and raised, or raised after Sylvanas' transformation into a banshee became a banshee. Males are a gray area, to my knowledge, but it is known that Elves are immune to Ner'zhul's plague.
I sold Daala as an elf slain while Sylvanas was still alive, raised by a common necromancer as cannon fodder.
But to be honest, the Forsaken and the Blood Elves have one thing in common, and it's not nationality, barring exceptions I'd wager you'll never see outside of PC RP - it's a burning injury dealt to them by the Scourge, far moreso than any other race.
Shadowspeak
09-12-2006, 06:29 PM
Elves are immune to the plague? How? I never heard of that.
Link anyone? Enheilras?
Vilmah
09-12-2006, 06:34 PM
[quote=-Shadowspeak-] Every female Elf that was either slain and raised, or raised after Sylvanas' transformation into a banshee became a banshee.
Thats what I always thought, myself. In DnD, aren't all banshees undead elves? I think I reemmber reading that, somewhere.
It was given in a thing Blizzard posted before Naxx came out. Only humans are effected by the plauge. It's also why the Hinterlands and Quel'thalas don't have that nasty plague filled sky.. because they're not human lands.
Karkarov
09-12-2006, 07:38 PM
No banshee's can be any race. In a specific D&D campain world.... Dragonlance namely, all banshee's are female elves. In regular plain old D&D a banshee could have been from any race before becoming undead, though all are female of course.
Daala
09-12-2006, 07:46 PM
No banshee's can be any race. In a specific D&D campain world.... Dragonlance namely, all banshee's are female elves. In regular plain old D&D a banshee could have been from any race before becoming undead, though all are female of course.Right. It might be different in a specific campaign, but in Greyhawk, it's a distraught maiden's spirit.
Sinthe
09-12-2006, 08:09 PM
Skyze was raised through necromancy as a Lich, to briefly explain it. He was slain outside of Silvermoon, near the sunwell, defending Quel'Thalas from the Scourge invasion. It was actually a Dreadlord that slew him. Skyze had defeated a host of Scourge with a small group of magi, and he was the only survivor. A dreadlord walked into the little forest clearing, screwed with him a bit, then tossed a large ball of fire at Skyze, hence the black spiked, singed hair. He was an Archmage in life, and thus taken for his power and raised into the scourge.
Shadowspeak
09-12-2006, 08:11 PM
Now that I think about it, I don't think only humans were affected by the plague. Trolls resisted it, but only through their natural regeneration. And the -mossflayer is it?- is undead, but that was because of their chief.
Danyxandra
09-12-2006, 08:14 PM
This isn't D&D though, and you can't even quote Blizzard for lore fact anymore as it's an ever changing history depending on what new game mechanics they are wanting to support at the time.
That being the case, I will accept anything anyone wants to RP that is halfway plausable. Now if this game had hard set, unchanging, never waivering facts of lore, I'd be more inclined to let people get pissy about RP rules, but given Blizzard's track record for throwing lore out the window at whim, then anything any of you want to RP out with their characters, is in my opinion, fine by me.
I'm just damned happy that this community RP's...period...in any shape or form. I don't care if someone wants to RP that they were a gnome until they became undead. Yup. Undead, forsaken gnomes are fine by me because Blizzard is bound to put them in somewhere in the future considering their track record. I'm not an RP elitist. I just want us all to RP and the lewts to stfu in /say and /yell.
Daala
09-12-2006, 08:16 PM
Now that I think about it, I don't think only humans were affected by the plague. Trolls resisted it, but only through their natural regeneration. And the -mossflayer is it?- is undead, but that was because of their chief.The plague is NOT the only source of Necromancy. There were Orcish Necromancers in the Second War, maybe also the First, before Ner'zhul was transformed into the Lich King. If they're undead, it's due to another reason.
Blizzard explicity stated that only humans are affected by the plague. If you have Warcraft III, read the manual. (might only be collector's edition manual that has lore info, not sure.) When it discusses how the Lich King conquered Azjol-Nerub, it mentions that the Nerubians were immune to the plague, but Ner'zhul raised them because he wasn't just a plague-farter, but also an astonishingly powerful necromancer.
The plague is just one method of raising the dead.
Shadowspeak
09-12-2006, 08:19 PM
Now that I think about it, I don't think only humans were affected by the plague. Trolls resisted it, but only through their natural regeneration. And the -mossflayer is it?- is undead, but that was because of their chief.The plague is NOT the only source of Necromancy. There were Orcish Necromancers in the Second War, maybe also the First, before Ner'zhul was transformed into the Lich King. If they're undead, it's due to another reason.
Blizzard explicity stated that only humans are affected by the plague. If you have Warcraft III, read the manual. (might only be collector's edition manual that has lore info, not sure.) When it discusses how the Lich King conquered Azjol-Nerub, it mentions that the Nerubians were immune to the plague, but Ner'zhul raised them because he wasn't just a plague-farter, but also an astonishingly powerful necromancer.
The plague is just one method of raising the dead.
I just asked about this thing in the Lore Forum.
: P
Danyxandra
09-12-2006, 08:20 PM
She said plague-farter.
*laughs Mt Dew out her nose*
Daala
09-12-2006, 08:39 PM
She said plague-farter.
*laughs Mt Dew out her nose*Hehehe
Mortica
09-13-2006, 06:05 PM
I don't care if someone wants to RP that they were a gnome until they became undead.
omg. the possibilities!
Y'all are lucky I don't elaborate.
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Danyxandra
09-13-2006, 06:11 PM
Seriously, I may be a nazi about wanting my /say and /shout and /gu to be in-character so I can turn off general and completely immerse in the the game, but to me the game is just a stage and the lore is just a backdrop. If people want to stick strictly to the lore for themselves, that's cool. If other people want to veer way off-course from the lore for themselves, that's cool too. As long as it's for themselves and they don't force anyone else to believe, than my characters can choose to believe their story or to consider them wackos. I, personally, am okay with anything and everything anyone wants to RP in their stories, as long as it's not godmoted and that it IS rp and not ooc in my RP channels.
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