More Cataclysm Tidbits

[Irontoe]

If you need a spoiler tag by now...

Source: UK PC Gamer #206

GOBLINS

The Goblins are turning Azshara into a Horde Symbol, with their city in the middle surrounding a colossal cannon.

They are also carving a Mount Goblin Rushmore.


You start on Kezan as a pretty high level (society-wise, not game mechanics) executive, successful and rich, with a hot secretary. When Kezan begins to fall apart, you give your life savings to a Trade Prince who promises you safe passage to the mainland. Instead, he captures you and tries to sell into slavery. That's when the shipwreck happens, and again, the story picks up with the BlizzCon portion.

Apparently, the original goblin city, despite only appearing from levels 1-5, is sort of a Grand Theft Auto: Goblin City parody type of setup, full of sleaze and pollution and robot-powered American-style football. But that's not all. Apparently the goblins' brush with slavery and death hasn't wiped out their unique sensibilities and philosophies, as they'll actually reshape Azshara to look like the Horde symbol.

(Goblin racials abilities: terraforming, jet packs.

Worgen racial abilities: Bark.)


ZONE ALTERATIONS


The ruins of Lordaeron are being expanded, with a pit opening into the Undercity. Zoram'gar Outpost will be a Warsong Hold style base. In zone modification news, Stranglethorn will be one of the most extensively altered zones. In addition, Southshore will have succumbed to tidal waves (which is notably different from what we heard at BlizzCon, which was that the Horde had conquered it).


GARROSH AND ORGRIMMAR

"Garrosh has thrown any races he feels can't help defend the city from the centre of Orgrimmar." Only the Tauren and Orcs remain. The Undead, Blood Elves, Goblins and Trolls are removed.

(So VARIAN'S a racist, huh?)


WORGEN

The story of the zone begins in the past, in Gilnaes itself - with you working with and for decendants of the King. The Gilneans' look is distinct from the Stormwind faction: they favor top hat, waistcoat and tails, an almsot Victorian appearance. Rumours of a plague have begun to spread, and you're to prepare the defences. You meet a dissenter Crawley, who's been sent to the castle stockades for causing trouble. Crawley believes that Gilnean isolationism is a mistake - that they'd be better joining the Alliance in the fight against the Forsaken.

The Worgen curse, when it does arrive, is devastating, You and Crawley organise a fighting retreat, taking up a last stand in the Gilneas cathedral. As you fight and quest, the city is taken over by feral Worgen. Safe districts turn to fire thanks to Blizzard's phasing tech. As you realise the horrifiing truth - that the Worgen you're fighting are your former friends - you turn into one yourself.

The game cuts to years later. You've been wandering feral in the woods, when you are captured by Crawley. He puts you in the stocks, and feeds you a potion brewed to give you control over the plague. It works. If you enter combat you'll automatically shift. But you can still wander the cities in human form. It's under control.

You set about rebuilding and regrouping. But it's all too late, again Lady Sylvanas, the Forsaken leader, has decided that Gilneas and the surrounding area is to be a Horde port. She sends a vast fleet. By level six you're fending off Forsaken soilders, and preparing a fresh evacuation.

That's when the Cataclysm hits. In one almighty tsunami, the Forsaken fleet is wiped out and the Gilneans are saved. But in an impressive demonstration of Blizzard's phasing tech, half of Gilneas shore is flooded in the process. The Worgen have no choice - they must decamp, and join the Alliance at Stormwind.


GNOMES

After five years of players purging Gnomeregan of it's inhabitants, Gnomes may finally be able to reclaim their home as a new capital city for the Alliance.

(Note the use of the word "may."

Since there was mention of a tunnel directly connecting Orgrimmar to the goblin city through the mountains to the north of Org, I assume that there will be a tram or somesuch between Gnomeregan and Ironforge.)


BATTLEGROUNDS

Three new battlegrounds are promised, too - including a city siege in Gilneas. Finally, Wintergrasp, that awesome siege battle that's so popular it breaks servers, is getting a sequel: Tol Barad. It's a prison island - Think Alcatraz but with elves. Along with an irregular battle, Tol Barad acts as a daily quest hub: between battles, you'll be able to earn cash, and, if you've won, take on the prison's raid dungeon.

Lessons have been learned from Wintergrasp. Tol Barad is more likely to be instanced, says Street. "we're having a very serious discussion about that right now," he explains. "if we'd have known how popular Wintergrasp would be, we probably would have instanced that, too."

[Lythas]

STEAMPUNK WORGEN

WOO WOO WOO WOO

[Swerto]

I'm so going to love my Worgen.

[Irontoe]

STEAMPUNK WORGEN

WOO WOO WOO WOO

Out of everything in the post, you got excited that the werewolves wear top hats?

[Trigin]

The Worgen sound great cant wait to make one and see how all this plays out!

[Evanthe]

Out of everything in the post, you got excited that the werewolves wear top hats?

Well dur.

[Ironskull]

What's the estimated release date?

[Swerto]

I say spring at the earliest.

[Lythas]

Out of everything in the post, you got excited that the werewolves wear top hats?

Yes.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v114/fauxfaia/PIPPIPCHEERIO.jpg

[Cyrass]

What's the estimated release date?

I'm still saying Q2 2010

[Ryoku]

Out of everything in the post, you got excited that the werewolves wear top hats?

My friend, do you not see those ears? ;)

I'm actually interested in the whole Racism in Orgrimmar thing. It's like after all this time of being battered for being an Orc by Blood Elves, Blizzard is giving me a chance to toss it back! :D

But seriously, I think it's going to be really interesting playing out my Orc around it. Will he agree with this movement? Will he be against it? How will other races react to it, and to him as such?

[Chikt]

I'm just looking forward to all the Blood Elves going back to the Alliance where they belong Worgen in Top Hats.

[Yichimet]

I'm not sure how I feel about instancing the one area of real world PvP--I guess they mean the bi-hourly battles will be instanced, and the rest of the time the place will be open for world pvp? If you're making a daily quest hub in a PvP-centric zone you're inviting world pvp, and then you're going to instance the one major PvP goal of the zone? Eeeehhhhh...

[Raziel]

You can say it like "We're throwing trolls out" or you can say it like, "Trolls get their own city"

[Taknar]

You can say it like "We're throwing trolls out" or you can say it like, "Trolls get their own city"

I prefer "Throwing the Trolls out." Gives more flavour to Garrosh and his ideals, and also moves the Horde closer to allied city-states much like the Alliance. I think that'd be interesting.

[Chikt]

I'm not sure how I feel about instancing the one area of real world PvP--I guess they mean the bi-hourly battles will be instanced, and the rest of the time the place will be open for world pvp? If you're making a daily quest hub in a PvP-centric zone you're inviting world pvp, and then you're going to instance the one major PvP goal of the zone? Eeeehhhhh...

The thing about instancing is that it isn't just dungeons and battlegrounds like you would think. Technically, the continent of Kalimdor and the continent of the Eastern Kingdoms are separate instances.

In fact, Silvermoon, The Exodar and the zones surrounding them are separate instances that exist in the Outlands instance. Get in a group with somebody some time, send them to Silvermoon, and go into Shattrath yourself - you'll see an arrow on your map pointing in their direction. But then go to Orgrimmar, and it won't exist anymore. Because they're in an entirely different instance to you.

What it means is that Tol'Barad - while likely only being Wintergrasp sized in scale - will be on its own world server. It makes a lot of sense. If wintergrasp was instanced, SO many issues could be avoided - you wouldn't see the world server going down because too many people were playing in it. And while you might not notice, all of Northrend lags during Wintergrasp battles.

The downside is that Tol'Barad will have a loading screen upon entering. That's it.

[Leiwar]

Yes.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v114/fauxfaia/PIPPIPCHEERIO.jpg

EPIC WIN!!!!

[Yichimet]

Aaahhh. Then I feel way better about it. Thanks Dio!

[Taknar]

What it means is that Tol'Barad - while likely only being Wintergrasp sized in scale - will be on its own world server. It makes a lot of sense. If wintergrasp was instanced, SO many issues could be avoided - you wouldn't see the world server going down because too many people were playing in it. And while you might not notice, all of Northrend lags during Wintergrasp battles.

The downside is that Tol'Barad will have a loading screen upon entering. That's it.

I wonder if they will put it with the other Battleground instances, or in with the Outlands instance. I'm very curious about their architectural designs like this.

[Cristok]

I need to know if they will be applying rep during rated battlegrounds. I plan on hitting those pretty hard and wonder if I should suspend my Battlemaster grind until then. Thoughts?

[Swerto]

Get back to your Battlemaster grind, I'll tag along with you like I usually do.

[Rethius]

With the coming of cataclysm I am tempted to make a Bloodelf.


More so since the belf population will drop significantly.

Edit: Oh and hes going to Fugly, and a complete ghoulish sort of wretch. Smell like crap, or something.

KEK

Am I breaking Belf rp standards yet?


Edit2: This is really gay, I can't make an ugly Belf no matter how hard I try.

[Rand_Shea]

Oh and hes going to Fugly, and a complete ghoulish sort of wretch. Smell like crap, or something.



Bir? o.O

[Swerto]

Bir wasn't ugly!

[Rand_Shea]

Bir was supposed to be unsightly and disgusting according to his player, unless they were lying.

[Swerto]

No, AETHERIL was ugly.

[Irontoe]

Update. Because I'm lazy (or efficient), I copied all this stuff directly from wow.com:

GOBLINS

As for the goblins, you start on Kezan as a pretty high level (society-wise, not game mechanics) executive, successful and rich, with a hot secretary. When Kezan begins to fall apart, you give your life savings to a Trade Prince who promises you safe passage to the mainland. Instead, he captures you and tries to sell into slavery. That's when the shipwreck happens, and again, the story picks up with the BlizzCon portion.

Apparently, the original goblin city, despite only appearing from levels 1-5, is sort of a Grand Theft Auto: Goblin City parody type of setup, full of sleaze and pollution and robot-powered American-style football. But that's not all. Apparently the goblins' brush with slavery and death hasn't wiped out their unique sensibilities and philosophies, as they'll actually reshape Azshara to look like the Horde symbol.

ZONE ALTERATIONS

The ruins of Lordaeron are being expanded, with a pit opening into the Undercity. Zoram'gar Outpost will be a Warsong Hold style base. In zone modification news, Stranglethorn will be one of the most extensively altered zones. In addition, Southshore will have succumbed to tidal waves (which is notably different from what we heard at BlizzCon, which was that the Horde had conquered it).

[Raziel]

as they'll actually reshape Azshara to look like the Horde symbol.

http://www.estatesdubai.com/uploaded_images/palm-jumeirah-resort-746847.jpg
http://www.destination360.com/middle-east/united-arab-emirates/images/s/palm-jumeirah.jpg


hrmmm...

[Irontoe]

That's exactly what came to mind when I read that.

[Trigin]

GARROSH AND ORGRIMMAR

"Garrosh has thrown any races he feels can't help defend the city from the centre of Orgrimmar." Only the Tauren and Orcs remain. The Undead, Blood Elves, Goblins and Trolls are removed.

(So VARIAN'S a racist, huh?)



I wonder how that is going to work out game wise?

[Ryoku]

I wonder how that is going to work out game wise?

Dio and I will have the perfect place to call home.

[Alphaeus]

Honestly the throwing out bit quirked a brow for me. Like.. '...legit my ass'.

If done at all, will probably work like the Horde/Alliance quarters of Dalaran.

[Ryoku]

Honestly the throwing out bit quirked a brow for me. Like.. '...legit my ass'.

If done at all, will probably work like the Horde/Alliance quarters of Dalaran.

You're just cranky. :p

For a serious response: If it gets implemented it will probably not involve the entire city, but only the "center" of Orgrimmar, or they may just mean as far as residency (meaning non Orc / Tauren NPCs are out, but visitors (players) are still allowed). But I'm probably going to have to call shenanigans on them actually not letting players of a certain race in. As cool as it'd be from storyline perspectives, it'd really just make things difficult what with defense and everything.

I'm just imagining an RC perspective on an attack on Garrosh and all of Yusegarr, Diomades, Cyrass, and I being the only ones from the guild actually able to defend him while the rest have to wait at the door.

Although, the fact that the Tauren are mentioned is interesting. If the rumors of Cairne being replaced by Baine are true, I'm imagining the son has a quite different perspective than the father.

[Chikt]

I wonder how that is going to work out game wise?

As Ryo said, he and I will have a new home. And he just climbed to BEST LEADER EVER in my books.

Except he kicked out the Trolls and Goblins. Fuckin' dick.

[Amoola]

serious doesn't look good for you if you kick out the *first* allies the horde gained. And where the hell is garrosh getting the thought that trolls can't fight or defend? Trolls are blinking fighting machines. They have a trend of beserkers, a strong trend of that.

Garrosh is sounding like more and more of a *fill in the blank* to me. He's looking to get on the bad side of my characters...... given that they are trolls or affiliated with trolls. >.<

[Ryoku]

serious doesn't look good for you if you kick out the *first* allies the horde gained. And where the hell is garrosh getting the thought that trolls can't fight or defend? Trolls are blinking fighting machines. They have a trend of beserkers, a strong trend of that.

Garrosh is sounding like more and more of a *fill in the blank* to me. He's looking to get on the bad side of my characters...... given that they are trolls or affiliated with trolls. >.<

HE'S DONE THE BEST DAMN THING FOR OUR RACES SINCE BURNING CRUSADE YOU SHUT YOUR MOUTH.

[Yatokth]

I wager Garrosh (along with the whole post-apocalyptic feel of Cataclysm) will shake up Horde RP CONSIDERABLY, which will be really fun because it will be at least just -changed-.

I know if he goes racist and shit, Raven Cross is gonna give him the finger.

[Ryoku]

I wager Garrosh (along with the whole post-apocalyptic feel of Cataclysm) will shake up Horde RP CONSIDERABLY, which will be really fun because it will be at least just -changed-.

I know if he goes racist and shit, Raven Cross is gonna give him the finger.

You know, I'm debating OOCly whether or not Aro is going to be for or against it.

OOCly I love it, obviously, but ICly.. Hmm.

I mean, he'd still be loyal to the Cross and shit, but seeing how Arokai has generally been treated by Elves and Forsaken in game, I'd imagine he'd only really be sensitive to the Trolls.

Random thought: Does this mean I'll get a language called High Orcish so I can RP in a language no other race can understand to be an asshole for the fun of it?

[Amoola]

HE'S DONE THE BEST DAMN THING FOR OUR RACES SINCE BURNING CRUSADE YOU SHUT YOUR MOUTH.

Really? If you seriously believe this then please "E'splain Lucy".

I don't think that it is smart to essentially kick your first allies in the balls. though I will add that I am saving complete judgment for when it expansion comes out and we know the details. OOC wise it's not looking all that good for his opinion polls, though, I have been given the feeling he most likely would give the finger to those who don't agree.

[Ryoku]

It's a joke.. Really I'm just stabbing at Elves.

And no, I don't really understand why he's kicking Trolls out. They're not the most loyal allies, but they are fierce, and have a prowess in battle.

Perhaps it is due to their dependency? It's been like 6 years now and they still haven't done a damn thing about Zalzane in their islands.

What truly boggles me is how we allow the Goblins entrance in our Horde, yet Garrosh finds them too weak?

If he found them too weak, why would he allow them into the Horde in the first place?

[Taknar]

It's a joke.. Really I'm just stabbing at Elves.

And no, I don't really understand why he's kicking Trolls out. They're not the most loyal allies, but they are fierce, and have a prowess in battle.

Perhaps it is due to their dependency? It's been like 6 years now and they still haven't done a damn thing about Zalzane in their islands.

What truly boggles me is how we allow the Goblins entrance in our Horde, yet Garrosh finds them too weak?

If he found them too weak, why would he allow them into the Horde in the first place?

Are you kidding me? They are terra-forming Azshara into the Horde symbol. If that isn't the epitomy of asskissing, I don't know what is. How could you not let them in after that?

And I think that the Trolls should get kicked out on their ass, so that there will be some pressure on the race to really get serious and prove to the Horde what they have to offer. Most Darkspear outposts in Outlands, for example, are jokes and are more about fishing and chilling out rather than getting the work done. We have Goblins in the Horde now, it's time for Trolls to stop being the joke race.

I have no commentary on the Elves or the Forsaken, although I could easily visualise a reason for each race of the Horde (including Tauren) to be kicked out of Ogrimmar and viewed as too weak to defend it.

[Yatokth]

It's a joke.. Really I'm just stabbing at Elves.

And no, I don't really understand why he's kicking Trolls out. They're not the most loyal allies, but they are fierce, and have a prowess in battle.

Perhaps it is due to their dependency? It's been like 6 years now and they still haven't done a damn thing about Zalzane in their islands.

What truly boggles me is how we allow the Goblins entrance in our Horde, yet Garrosh finds them too weak?

If he found them too weak, why would he allow them into the Horde in the first place?

Probably outside influence.

Saurfang's still gonna be rockin' the Warlord spot, unless he gets killed in Icecrown.

Sort of like a super badass version of Jaina. With axes.

[Swerto]

I HAVE FOUND THE ANSWER

Do you remember what the gnomes looked like in tier 6 warrior?


Now imagine a goblin in that.




Ammo.


DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA

[Yatokth]

I HAVE FOUND THE ANSWER

Do you remember what the gnomes looked like in tier 6 warrior?


Now imagine a goblin in that.




Ammo.


DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA

COLORED TEXT.

[Swerto]

Don't you wish your text was red-like-me?

[Gorvena]

I bought the "Don't You Wish Your Girlfriend Was HORDE Like Me?" shirt for 'gasa a couple of years ago. She still wears it.

[Agnarr]

This all sounds like b.s. to me. Unless they basically scrapped everything they had to show at Blizzcon.


(which is notably different from what we heard at BlizzCon, which was that the Horde had conquered it).

Seeing that I was at Blizzcon, that's not what we heard there. We heard that Southshore was gone, but it wasn't because of the Horde, it was because of the Cataclysm. The entire info reeks of "wrong."

[Taknar]

This all sounds like b.s. to me. Unless they basically scrapped everything they had to show at Blizzcon.



Seeing that I was at Blizzcon, that's not what we heard there. We heard that Southshore was gone, but it wasn't because of the Horde, it was because of the Cataclysm. The entire info reeks of "wrong."

Eh, that's just what happens when you get one news source interpreting another news source that actually did the interview. Enough people are talking about it (including Neth on the WoW forums) that I'd take the core chunks of info as legit (no, you don't get a hot Gobbo secretary).

Something else I thought of while reading Neth's comment. I'll quote it:


Are you sure [Garrosh]'s a "bad guy"? What do you think defines him of being unworthy of leading the Horde or at the least the orcs?

I think there is a possibility here of limiting what controll Garrosh has. I could see Thrall stepping down as Warchief of the Horde and dismantling the single-ruler nature. Or, Saurfang as Warchief of the Horde with Garrosh, Lor'themar, Cairne, Sylvanus, and the others reporting to him.

Think about that for a second, and then smile. Smile biiiig. =D

[Irontoe]

Seeing that I was at Blizzcon, that's not what we heard there. We heard that Southshore was gone, but it wasn't because of the Horde, it was because of the Cataclysm. The entire info reeks of "wrong."

There's a photograph of a slide at Blizzcon that says the Forsaken "finally conquer Southshore" or something to that effect. Let me dig it up.

Edit: Here you go. (http://www.mmo-champion.com/news-2/world-of-warcraft-cataclysm-preview-panel/) "The Horde have finally conquered Soutshore."

[Ryoku]

This all sounds like b.s. to me. Unless they basically scrapped everything they had to show at Blizzcon.



Seeing that I was at Blizzcon, that's not what we heard there. We heard that Southshore was gone, but it wasn't because of the Horde, it was because of the Cataclysm. The entire info reeks of "wrong."

You know when Blizzard first announced Wrath they also said that Azjol Nerub was going to be an entire zone rather than two tiny instances.

Things get scraped, redone, etc. all the time. Blizzard is actually quite notorious for it.

[Amoola]

Something else I thought of while reading Neth's comment. I'll quote it:



I think there is a possibility here of limiting what controll Garrosh has. I could see Thrall stepping down as Warchief of the Horde and dismantling the single-ruler nature. Or, Saurfang as Warchief of the Horde with Garrosh, Lor'themar, Cairne, Sylvanus, and the others reporting to him.

Think about that for a second, and then smile. Smile biiiig. =D

See that I could easily handle IC and OOC. In a way it would kind of make sense. But, putting the flipping hot head in charge of *everything*? I really can't see Thrall doing that. He of all people know how short sighted Garrosh can be.

And the more I think about that it does make me smile.

[Swerto]

Saurfang will die in Icecrown.


Before Cataclysm Garrosh will do something to prove himself worthy of leading to Thrall, other than leading all the forces of Northrend (which he has done)

[Beetlegeuse]

There's a photograph of a slide at Blizzcon that says the Forsaken "finally conquer Southshore" or something to that effect. Let me dig it up.

Edit: Here you go. (http://www.mmo-champion.com/news-2/world-of-warcraft-cataclysm-preview-panel/) "The Horde have finally conquered Soutshore."

/cheer

Now, to ASTRANNAR! Rawr. (Better cover south Barrens though, Dwarves are getting mighty close......)

[Irontoe]

/cheer

Now, to ASTRANNAR! Rawr. (Better cover south Barrens though, Dwarves are getting mighty close......)

Actually, yeah. Astranaar is burned to the ground by wyvern riders, and the Alliance builds large fortifications in the Barrens.

[Beetlegeuse]

Saurfang will die in Icecrown.


Before Cataclysm Garrosh will do something to prove himself worthy of leading to Thrall, other than leading all the forces of Northrend (which he has done)

Garrosh will be Garrosh. Stupid as that pudgy Human King. I think a coup de grace will happen. After all, why -is- Thrall being shipped for the Goblins to find? And I know a certain old timer cowboy who's going to be made into some auction leathers. Too timely, if you ask me... his boy is going to be quite the Sunshine Paladin.

[Irontoe]

Garrosh will be Garrosh. Stupid as that pudgy Human King. I think a coup de grace will happen. After all, why -is- Thrall being shipped for the Goblins to find? And I know a certain old timer cowboy who's going to be made into some auction leathers. Too timely, if you ask me... his boy is going to be quite the Sunshine Paladin.

This has been covered. Thrall ended up in the Echo Isles because, as the most powerful shaman on Azeroth, he was investigating the effects of the Cataclysm near the Maelstrom.

[Agnarr]

There's a photograph of a slide at Blizzcon that says the Forsaken "finally conquer Southshore" or something to that effect. Let me dig it up.

Edit: Here you go. (http://www.mmo-champion.com/news-2/world-of-warcraft-cataclysm-preview-panel/) "The Horde have finally conquered Soutshore."

No slide saying that, just the author's "interpretation", which for anyone else that was there, is pretty wrong, at least in this case of Soutshore.

[Irontoe]

No slide saying that, just the author's "interpretation", which for anyone else that was there, is pretty wrong.

Why is this detail so important? I'm saying that that is where I got my information, and clearly more people than just him heard it.

[Yatokth]

Why is this detail so important? I'm saying that that is where I was getting my information, and clearly more people than just him heard it.

Because unless you can provide a picture upon which a Blizzard slide said those exact words, it's unconfirmed.

[Irontoe]

Because unless you can provide a picture upon which a Blizzard slide said those exact words, it's unconfirmed.

Of course it's unconfirmed. We now know that Southshore gets wiped out by tidal waves, and, if you'll look, that's what I quoted in the OP.

CAN WE MOVE PAST THIS?

[Beetlegeuse]

This has been covered. Thrall ended up in the Echo Isles because, as the most powerful shaman on Azeroth, he was investigating the effects of the Cataclysm near the Maelstrom.

Convenient. (Shifty glance)

[Beetlegeuse]

Of course it's unconfirmed. We now know that Southshore gets wiped out by tidal waves, and, if you'll look, that's what I quoted in the OP.

CAN WE MOVE PAST THIS?

... Ok.

So, in Southshore's Inn - I was thinking new drapes. Maybe with little skulls on them. Maybe in dark green or black? Mmyess. Black. That sounds about right. Mourning color, you know. Just in case alliance visit. Oh, and they don't stain bad either just in case. Ah.

Oh, and I heard that on youtube during one of the panels. Maybe the guy doing the panel narration was misinformed, or not. I care less. I'll still be roasting marshmellows there listening to Alliance cry. And it won't stop them raiding Tarren Mill, I can guarantee.

[Beetlegeuse]

I HAVE FOUND THE ANSWER

Do you remember what the gnomes looked like in tier 6 warrior?


Now imagine a goblin in that.




Ammo.


DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA

And imagine that Goblin with Sapper Charges. Ah... -CHARGE- BOOOM. If only we had those last war.

[Beetlegeuse]

Probably outside influence.

Saurfang's still gonna be rockin' the Warlord spot, unless he gets killed in Icecrown.

Sort of like a super badass version of Jaina. With axes.

And as a result, you have put the image of Saurfang with breasts into my head. Pure. Epic.

[Beetlegeuse]

I bought the "Don't You Wish Your Girlfriend Was HORDE Like Me?" shirt for 'gasa a couple of years ago. She still wears it.

Doncha wish your pally could HoT like me? Doncha wish your pally was all l33t like me? Doncha!

[Ryoku]

Who the fuck are you?

[Yatokth]

Who the fuck are you?

Someone who should definitely learn where the edit button is.

[Swerto]

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c272/Swerto/FOUNDIT.jpg

[Raziel]

Who the fuck are you?

He's the Ghost with the Most.

Just say his name 3 more times and he'll go away.

[Swerto]

http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2009/september/gilneas_city.jpg


Gilneas is turning out to be very Venician.

[Ryoku]

Bigass fuggin Screenshot of Gilneas City.

Looking at it, it does seem fairly Venitian (island city and whatnot), but the architecture is all wrong. Venice has a lot more arched, concrete architecture. The buildings here have a very gritty 1800s London thing going for them.

EDIT: Actually looking at it, it seems like it might instead be a River city.

[Raziel]

It's fucking Altdorf!

[Gorvena]

Or Stormwind canals with wood instead of stone architecture.

[Irontoe]

I could be mistaken, since I haven't heard much about where the Worgen will actually make their home, but I'm pretty that, sadly, Gilneas will only appear in the Worgen starting quests and as a battleground. The Alliance won't actually get an awesome new city.

[Geofforan]

Actually looking at it, it seems like it might instead be a River city.

OH, WE GOT TROUBLE! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI_Oe-jtgdI)

[Tovann]

Im digging the water affects!

[Yatokth]

OH, WE GOT TROUBLE! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI_Oe-jtgdI)

YOU WIN.

FOREVER.

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