UPDATED: You want epic?! I'll give you epic!!

[Aquizit]

My brain has been smoking all night, as I sit here at my workdesk. I did major work on the IFR website this eve, yet my mind isn't quite done yet. I thought... what else could I do? I have to think of something!


I have.

God... I have..

You want PvP events? You want people to work as a team, not for one single objective, but to retailiate against the threat of complete destruction? You want an RP backing?

Fine.


The war will come.

Far too many times have Southshore and Arathi been razed.. For too long have people been afriad to quest in Strangethorn because of the slaughter that occurs at Nessingwary's all hours of the day. Innexcusable is it that Raven Hill, at the very DOORSTEP of Stormwind fall under seige by the menace that is the Horde daily!

...There is a reason why the Ironforge Regiment isn't a sanctioned part of the King's Army.


We will wage war!

On the Alliance's behalf, we will push north from Khaz Modan, taking region after region, with the backing of our allies, with the backing of the Alliance.. of our PEOPLE! We WILL NOT STOP until the very Undercity that lies in Tirisfal burns at our feet! The Horde threat in the Eastern Kingdoms will be erradicated!

For the Alliance!
For Magni!
Fer Blood n' Silver! Axe High!


[ Ok.. but seriously.. I need to coordinate this better, I need someone hordeside to be able to do that. Abric, you were in charge hordeside for Op: Longrifle, and it seemed to go ok.. Throw me some contact info.. let's pound this baby into realization! I want every little detail gone over.. no mis-communications like Op: Longrifle.. I've got the bare-bones in my head. I'm thinking.. huge, .. world-wide.. long-term.. a true war. The Fourth War! ]

[Cedes]

One day enough was enough for me.

I personally marched up to hammerfall and started slaughtering......every.....single....horde....n.. p..c...... :twisted:



and ill do it again, oh yes.......ill do it again.

Honor is not a factor to me anymore....but being able to enter the champions hall is :?


Im gunna kill the women. m gunna kill those lil orc babies. And im gunna kill lowbies alogn with their lil 60 butt buddies till theres no one left :twisted:



NO HORDE IN AZEROTH IS SAFE FROM....


THE WRATH OF CEDES











ill be like jake the ripper.....muhahahahahahahahahaha :lol:

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ok on a serious note.....the idea is good, but here is a thought. Instead of a 4th war, why not set up a plan....and i mean an organized operation...to Siege Orgrimmar or undercity? im sure it can be done. Hell, get first legion, RSA, RS-eh, emperium dawn, and a few others to set up a 40 man raid each.....thats like 200 people right there....and we take over the city.

good plain? yes
suicide? damn striaght
worth it? you bet it is

1 40man raid to keep horde out of the city
1 40man raid patrolling the city
1 40man in the thrown room against thrall/ syvannis

[Grainger]

Amusing.

Can you bring some step ladders next time ? Its rather irritating to have to crane my neck to look down at you lot prior to your death.

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Peace through Annihilation

[Aquizit]

A nice thought Cedes, but you seriously have no idea how epic I plan this to be.

We're not talking one event.. I'm thinking around 5+.. spanning over the course of one every other week, as to give time to re-plan and re-organize after the results of the event prior..

My primary goal is for this to be a CAMPAIGN! Multiple battles! Strategy! Teamwork! PLENTY of RP opportunities as multiple guilds and organizations gather to coordinate their efforts, both on and off the battlefield! Supplying bandages, gear, weapons, potions.. anything at all. Battle formations! Flanking attacks! Mission objectives and true victories and defeats over the course of MONTHS!


When I say war... I mean it.

This will not be one of your little... skirmishes.


This will be a war the world will feel for the ages.

[Mortica]

<3 Pylith

[Sinthe]

Are you thinking Goldshire?

Razor Hill is a Horde village outside Orgrimmar, nowhere near Stormwind.

=P

[Angawen]

Woohoo, Awesome!

If you need help brainstorming ideas, researching locations, scouting out areas or as a general secretary type assistant let me know. This sounds like it’d be a blast to actually pull off and I’d be happy to help it get there. I know I’m new to the server, WoW and PVP, but I’ve been RPing in MMOs for years and I have never seen such awesome RP events as I’ve seen in the few weeks I’ve been on TN. So yeah, any way I can help out, just shout.

[Aquizit]

Are you thinking Goldshire?

Razor Hill is a Horde village outside Orgrimmar, nowhere near Stormwind.

=P

S'cuse me, thank you for the correction. I meant Raven Hill.. you know, the big graveyard in Duskwood.

And I still need a hordie cohort to help me plan this out! Volunteers!!

[Cedes]

yes...but think of tha POWWA!

think of it the strength, the control we'd have with thrall or Syvannus at the alliances feet!!!!! :twisted:



remember pylith what the scourg did... and how the horde play in WoW....revenge is over due.

Kahn- "Ah kirk, my old friend..do you know the old Klingon proverb that says, revenge is a dish best serveed cold.......its very cold in space..."

[Aquizit]

..Says the pacifist..

[Cedes]

..Says the pacifist..

lmao, hope you dont mean Cedes :lol:

[Sinthe]

Also Pylith, feel free to contact me on behalf of Infection for any planning.

[Aquizit]

Well, first thing's first.. we need a trigger.

An assassin for our Archduke, so to say.. (extra points to history buffs)

[turen]

I suppose I could punch out a few oporders if you give me some specifications and objectives and what not. Not sure if Turen himself will be there. Open war isn't his bag unless he is in a very very very bad mood.

[Cedes]

Well, first thing's first.. we need a trigger.

An assassin for our Archduke, so to say.. (extra points to history buffs)


lol

we need a horde or alliance named Francis Ferdinand!!!




kill his wife too!!

[Garbhan]

I still have my plan for the Undercity, Pylith. It's still in my head. It'll work, I swear it will!

Also... I'm actually fairly decent at large scale 'campaign planning' you could say. You know, proper objectives and what not instead of just "Raise this town, then that town, then that one over there..."

Make mixes. Surgical strike at the Wyvrens here, obliterate Civvies there, hold the town and make prisoners of any non-combatants over there... take Undercity. Genius!

I may not play much anymore, Pylith m'boy, but I'm a forum troll and I want in on this wee shindig! It's bloody ON! Also, I have contacts in a number of guilds outside of TNG. New ones, none too large, but with spirit and good RPers. This would be good for them and good for us.

Bring down their walls with the weight of our dead!!



And we're thinking and RP epicness, Cedes, which leaves RSA, Red Sector Eh and the rest out.

[Cedes]

I still have my plan for the Undercity, Pylith. It's still in my head. It'll work, I swear it will!

Also... I'm actually fairly decent at large scale 'campaign planning' you could say. You know, proper objectives and what not instead of just "Raise this town, then that town, then that one over there..."

Make mixes. Surgical strike at the Wyvrens here, obliterate Civvies there, hold the town and make prisoners of any non-combatants over there... take Undercity. Genius!

I may not play much anymore, Pylith m'boy, but I'm a forum troll and I want in on this wee shindig! It's bloody ON! Also, I have contacts in a number of guilds outside of TNG. New ones, none too large, but with spirit and good RPers. This would be good for them and good for us.

Bring down their walls with the weight of our dead!!



And we're thinking and RP epicness, Cedes, which leaves RSA, Red Sector Eh and the rest out.

deciding to do a battle of epic purportion can be seen as a lil board game of "guess who." Thinking out a plan of operation will knock out the people with glasses and beards. Then making it an RP war in Azeroth kicks all the white people out....so that leaves like 5 people left on the game board WHICH MEANS!!!!!!!!!!......that there is only one options. Deciding to wage war on a battle field, or triggering an event leading to a war. Such as a conflict between alliance and horde(rp style).

If we can get alot...and i mena alot of RP guilds on both sides to some how start some type of conflict or issue it could work. We could carry this on for liek a week with RP events leading up to a battle. starting small then leading up to an RP meeting in the Cities at which confrontations will happen in the neighboring towns (such as south shore, refudge point, etc.) then leading on to some type of battle.

Maybe a seige of Tarin Mill or something can work as a start. Something needs to be taken by either side(with both leaders...allied and horde....knowing) to trigger such an event.


idk...theres alot to think about and do. My idea seems too hard and complex, i'd never work :cry:


EDIT- you gotta get the blood boiling in the RPers or they wont be hooked and wont do it..so its gotta be BIG!!!

[Abric]

I've read and complied.

Why don't you send me an email instead, chuckles. Sell me the product... make me excited to participate.

Though as warning, my schedule is busy... as one may tell by my lack of posts and presence online. If I can't 'lead the troop,' I know many that can, would... but then back off because Fhenrir smells like fermented milk.

[Aquizit]

Eh, it's not my place to pick and choose a horde "supreme commander." .. I just need a co-conspirator to lie down potential objectives.. a counter-balance to keep things fair.

Honestly, I'm going to try to keep town raids down to a minimum, since more people Alliance side care about DKs than horde (or so it seems), I don't want to have a town raid scheduled, then have over 3/4s of the raid leave after the first DK and watch the horde slam us back and take over the whole zone.

[Aquizit]

Ok, time to type up an overview... -cracks knuckles- Should be posted later tonight.

[Aquizit]

Ok, well.. I've been quiet on this because I'm waiting for a fellow IFR dwarf to do something that might set this entire thing into motion. He refuses to tell me what it is, however he ensures I'll be involved, which is nice.

Anyway, here's some ideas on how I'm thinking a couple things should work.


One: NO TOWN ASSAULTS
I just see nothing but problems with a town assault. DK drama, random people who are coming in and out of towns joining the fray and having random people spamming yells and General chat begging for raid invites.. Ugh, no fun at all. HOWEVER, this does not refer to......

Two: CITY ASSAULTS
City assaults are always epic in scale, and it's always a rather interesting goal to take down a faction boss. It'd take a long amount of planning, and massive numbers to successfully break through the defenses and take down a boss. But.. according to what I'm picturing it'd be hard to pull off without......

Three: ZONES OF CONTROL
If horde wanted to sack Darnassus, for example, they'd most likely want to control Ashenvale and Darkshore first, to keep intact supply lines moving to the front. I can't say I know -exactly- how I'd pull off how a faction would control a specific zone, though I do have ideas on how to take one without a town assault. The way I do see this working is that .. RP-wise.. if horde controlled Ashenvale, but not Darkshore, the sack upon Darnassus would be null, if a boss was killed. This is important due to the fact of......

Four: GUILD HQs
This was something I thought up recently and thought it'd either be loved.. or hated. There's really no middle ground on this. Each guild would be "based" in one of the three cities. Like the Ironforge Regiment would be "based" in Ironforge. If the horde took the Wetlands, Loch Modan, and ravaged through Dun Morogh and took Ironforge, slaying King Magni... IFR's base of operations would be destroyed.. the horde occupying force would not let anyone in or out of the city, of course.. and any guilds parcipitating in this event based out of Ironforge would be unable to formally line up in a battle. HOWEVER! Sneak, small (5-10 man) guerilla squad attacks would be an interesting twist.. a la Free French Army.

Pros: Something to REALLY fight for, your RPPvP livelihood is on the line! Forced to band together with other guilds you may not like -too- much for the sake of survival!

Cons: God forbid a city gets sacked and burned early.. could cause a lot of bad blood.. But I wouldn't think that a city assault would be too probable too early, unless no-one ever shows up to defend anything.

Otherwise I like this idea personally.. it makes for a very dramatic twist, and an openning for some amazing story work if a city ever gets taken down.. as many could write about being.. behind the lines and unable to fight back.


That's all I got for now.. comments people!!

[Garbhan]

Hm... This makes me start sorta thinking in a Risk/Axis&Allies/Warhammer Campaign sorta way... I'll need some time to get my plans on paper so to speak.

As for controling zones without properly sacking them... you could cut them off. Circle them and what not. Put in a proper siege so the only way in or out is by way of flying. Then you kill the flightmaster by way of covert assault.

I could go for the idea of specific targets inside towns, which would promote small skirmishes and what-not. Make it so you had x number of things to do in one night, so forces would have to be spread out, make it so both sides are attacking and defending at the same time in different places. The Horde need to steel something off the boat heading to Theramore, while the Alliance must assassinate the Flightmaster in Stonetalon sorta deal. Get more extravagant as it goes.

Make palpable bonuses for winning and proper punishments for losing - how, I'm still thinking about. Perhaps false information to the loser. They think they need to defend something, when in fact, its under no threat and thus they're wasting troops until they can be redirected. That would mean we'd need a GM of sorts on each sides, who coordinates the tricky stuff like that. Their job would essentially be to both frustrate and excite the factions by leading through a living breathing war which, to the GM's would be completely scripted, but entirely fascinating to the rest of us.

I like the idea of having to control certain places to attack others. That'd be another way of doing the 'Pros and Cons of Loss and Victory.'

If, say, the last remaining Bridge on the Thandol Span isn't retaken, then the Alliance will be unable to deliver aid to Refuge point, which is under attack by the Horde. To do things like that, I'd very much like for Refuge Point to actually BE under attack until things change. This would cut into otherwise gear/xp/honor building time both sides would have, however it would work towards some amazing RPing.

I'll get a more solid thing together and run it by you, Pylith. Need some think time.

[Keraph]

Infection, the strongest force of the Dark Lady's Elite, is more than willing to put forth all we can for this. And we can put fortha lot /nod

Just send a PM to myself, Nadea, or Skyze (Or all of us) and we can get the ball rolling.

PS: Guild HQs? We -so- call UC /nod

[Aquizit]

More than one guild can be based in any one city guys.. don't go off claiming spots. :P