3.0 PvP Specs!

[Fhenrir]

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[Yatokth]

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warrior=03203321230301052022102313125100000000000 0000000000000000305000000000000000000000000

Gets the best of the best (imo) from arms and gives me those clutch 8 points in fury mandatory for any arms spec.

My 80 spec is looking something like...

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warrior=03203321231301052322102313125100000000000 0000000000000000325000130000000000000000000

I don't know which weapon spec i'll be using, but I'm currently sword so that's what i've got on both of the specs.

[Ellorn]

Shaman:
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?shaman=000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 000000000250523310500135331131231251

Ugh. . .I hate going all-out Enhancement. But, it should be fun.

Rogue:
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?rogue=0000000000000000000000000000005320120000000 0000000000005300232133002121050135031200

Provided Honor Among Thieves continues to add extra combo points on your critical strikes, too, this is my absolute favorite spec.

For 80, and if Honor Among Thieves doesn't work the way I hope, I'll be able to pick up Imp. Eviscerate, Cold Blood, Fleet Footed, Quick Recovery, and Seal Fate in place of Camouflage and HAT =) Coupled with those excellent new engineering contraptions, I'm going to have more utility than you could shake a dozen sticks at.

[Grayslin]

Probably something like this: 46/0/15 (http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?rogue=0000000000000000000000000000005303105342132 5221003010005320032000000000000000000000)

Because assassination is my <3 forever. It would take a whole lot to make me leave that tree as my primary.

[Chikt]

Likely this (http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?shaman=553000152301535100530351000000000000000000 000000000052520010000000000000000000). Doing a lot more reading about the Elemental Shaman DPS rotation and doing the math in my head, having Flameshock on a shorter cooldown is pretty much pointless so I didn't waste points there. But wherever there was a talent to improve Lava Burst I've taken it to maximize my DPS at any one time. I'm also fairly sure that Elemental Oath effects everybody BUT me with the spell crit increase, so it seems like much more of a raid talent and I haven't bothered much with it.

As far as level 80 goes I'll likely be going with this (http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?shaman=553000152301535100530351000000000000000000 000000000052520010000000000000000000), but the points into Imp. Fire Nova and Enhancing Totems might change depending on how I feel about them. how I feel about them at the time.

[Cedes]

I am going arms until I see that fury is pvp (lvl 80). I have a lil theory that It will be and I wanna see if I am right.

Until then!! I will be swingin' like the drunk I am ((bladestorm'n it up)) with this lvl 70 build: **PVP specs only***

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warrior=05203021233351001022120303125100000000000 0000000000000000305000000000000000000000000


then ill do:
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warrior=05203321233301050022120003124100000000000 0000000000000000305020104005000000000000000

and If fury works out well:
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warrior=05003201233000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000305020105505012050122511051


some things could change obviously as I fight and see what works and what doesnt.

if I do anything horde (right now its dead T_T) for wotlk I will continue to keep my orc warrior fury even tho her respec is 10g or less and my paladin is at a hold. With his gear I see an improvment with healing in the last BT run i did (unfortunatly it was on ptr and not my guild since its gone too /wrist) but idk what the fate for paladins is now. It feels like pvp is all ret and pve is looking like tanking. I am "iffy" on both specs. : /

[Keraph]

http://wotlkwiki.info/talent/warrior.html?tal=032033202303510023021023131251305 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0

This is my 70 arms build (Lot of arms warriors in the house, eh?). Imp rend because it's becoming a mainstay, and is overall more useful than 2&#37; parry. No Anger Management becuase I feel that I can live without it, won't have 2H spec at 70, but that'll come as I level, as will EITHER Trauma or Strength of Arms. Doing some numbercrunching to see which is going to net me more damage. Strengh of Arms scales well as gear improves, and it does provide a tidy bit of HP as well, but trauma stacked with improved rends stacked with deep wounds makes for some pretty solid bleed damage, so I'm hoping to get some outside opinions on that. Rest of the points go 2/2 booming and Blood Craze. I THINK I can live without peircing howl, but if I can't I'll just run 2/3 tact mastery, because right now I don't even HAVE tact mastery and I do fine.

So we're most likely looking at this for 80:

http://wotlkwiki.info/talent/warrior.html?tal=032032202333510023221023131251325 00013000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0

I've done some amount of testing on beta to know that zerker stance be damned, Taste for Blood is sick as HELL, nuff said. Questions, comments? Always good to hear from others of your class during these times of mass change.

[NotMaithanet]

PvP Retribution (http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?paladin=05132251203331030013503135100000000000000 0000000000000050000000000000000000000)

Why? Because Seal of Command is ridiculous in PvP and the one second loss from Judgement cooldown is not that big a loss.

Also, all the key PvE talents are in there. 1000 Mana back every nine seconds? Yes please. Putting a Shadow Priest out of work? Yes please (Sorry Eva). DOOM AND AWESOME EVERYWHERE? Yes. Please.

PvP Ret at 80 (http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?paladin=05232251203331030213523135100000000000000 0000000000000053200000000000000000000)

[Skafloc]

I'm with Sylennis as far as my rogue goes. I am staying in the Assassination tree with a 51/5/5 (http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=f0ef0exoi0oIzAo0xZhb) build. I just want to see how that works for me.

As far as my hunter goes I am staying in the Survival tree. My ultimate lvl 80 build will look something like. this 0/15/56 (http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=cZce0bMZe00iooIheuAhot) build. How I am going to get there I haven't decided yet, if I am going to max out the surv tree first or spread it around a bit. I have to admit the idea of Explosive shot just makes me firm!. :D It's like an RPG! Also the hunting Party talent looks great for raids or BG groups.

EDIT: In talk with Maith I think I am going to work towards this (http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=cZceVboZe00iobIheuhGsz) as my PvP build. The other one seems to be more of a PvE build.

[Khorvis]

This (http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warrior=03203320233301502022112013125100000000000 0000000000000000305000000000000000000000000) is what I'll be using at 70 after my discussion with Yat. It has all the necessary components for effective PvP and will eventually lead to:

This (http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warrior=03203321233301502222122013125100000000000 0000000000000000325000130000000000000000000) at level 80. It's beautiful.

[Yatokth]

Thinking about it I'll probably be using a build similar, if not identical, to Keraph's.. He blew my mind with 2/3 Tact Mastery, and did convince me that AM was unneccessary. I may go back, but testing it is what I'll be working on once patch hits.

[Chikt]

I realized that taking talents into any of the Lava Burst stuff for my Elemental spec is largely pointless since we don't get it until level 75.

[Keraph]

Thinking about it I'll probably be using a build similar, if not identical, to Keraph's.. He blew my mind with 2/3 Tact Mastery, and did convince me that AM was unneccessary. I may go back, but testing it is what I'll be working on once patch hits.

You blew MY mind with 3/5 deflection to allow 2/2 imp rend, so this talent build of mine is totally our love child

[Moknim]

I have been trying, but can't really come up with a non-DS spec.

Not to mention I think Druids are going to be a huge suck-fest.

[Yatokth]

You blew MY mind with 3/5 deflection to allow 2/2 imp rend, so this talent build of mine is totally our love child

A disturbing, yet comforting thought.

[Naheal]

10/0/51 (http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?paladin=05230250203331030013520133105302000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000)

Sheath of Light makes healing not so big a deal as ret. The 30&#37; resistance to fears and disorients for 2 points? Yes, please!

Apparantly, HoW's actually doing something useful aside from eating mana now, and AW (wings) isn't attatched to Forebearance anymore, so I'm fine with reducing the CD (which should put it at a minute) and setting it up to bypass damage reduction (stupid priests...). I also plan on using Seal of Vengance/corruption a bit more often than I would Seal of Blood or Seal of Casino, and, since this is a PvP spec, that treat reduction really isn't that big a deal to me. The crit chance from Fanaticism for judgements is nice and all, but, really, I've got other things I could put those points in.

15/0/56 (http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?paladin=05230251203331030213520135105302050000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000) is more what I'm looking at doing at 80. Maybe taking the 5 points from Fanaticism and putting them in Divine Strength instead.

[NotMaithanet]

I REALLY like that 15/0/56, Naheal.

[Naheal]

I REALLY like that 15/0/56, Naheal.

From what I can tell, too, Seal of Corruption's going to be the tank's seal of choice, especially when working with other pallies (as of three days ago, there would be MUCH more holy damage put out if there were multiple pallies on a single target) so single target threat isn't that big of an issue for a pally.

[NotMaithanet]

SoCor is the tanking one, I've wanted it for so long...

Then I just spec'd Ret and SoBlood peoples FACES.

[Moknim]

Is ret going to be OP in 3.0 like it supposedly is in Beta?

[Yatokth]

Is ret going to be OP in 3.0 like it supposedly is in Beta?

Yes. Yes it is.

[Alivanth]

I'm thinking I might go Survival/Marks for PvP for Wrath once I hit 80 with Sel, a lot of new talents in the Survival tree are just too damn tasty to pass up for PvP:

http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=cZcgVcoZgchVo0IhedhGsz

That's what it's looking like for me thus far.

[Heidenreich]

Honestly, why do you Paladins keep skipping on Eye For An Eye? Do you realize how the new mechanics of the spell works?

I'll let you in on a little hint though. Any class who swings fast or casts spells WILL blow themselves up on you.

[Moknim]

Any input on specs from serious PvPing druids - *nudges the gladiators*? (I am not a serious PvP'er, but enjoy the occasional arena)

And "Find two retadins for 3s" is not helpful ;)

[Fhenrir]

Honestly, why do you Paladins keep skipping on Eye For An Eye? Do you realize how the new mechanics of the spell works?

I'll let you in on a little hint though. Any class who swings fast or casts spells WILL blow themselves up on you.

Eye For An Eye is interesting and all, but it's only 20% of damage reflected, and it's only on crits. Assuming you're running a competent amount of PvP gear you won't be getting crit constantly, and if you're playing ret to it's full potential you'll probably be able to kill most people in the duration of your HoJ/Bubble/Repetenace heal/re-HoJ combo anyway. You don't need people killing themselves on you.

My opinion anyway. This (http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=sZ0ebVcZVfMtbIufMsMzAo) is the ret spec I'll be using (at 70 I'll be dropping the respective points out of prot unfortunately =().

[Heidenreich]

I can tell you for a fact from testing on the PTR. A Ret Paladin in PvE gear will ROFLSTOMP a Ret Paladin in PvP gear BADLY!!! But to each their own.

Letting yourself take the crit is well worth it. I had at least 40 people watch me pound mages into the ground by not touching them and letting them kill themselves.

[Raziel]

Mainly just to fuck with people (http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?shaman=550035150001500100000000000000000000000000 000000000050500311550130331121000000[/url)

[Naheal]

I can tell you for a fact from testing on the PTR. A Ret Paladin in PvE gear will ROFLSTOMP a Ret Paladin in PvP gear BADLY!!! But to each their own.

Letting yourself take the crit is well worth it. I had at least 40 people watch me pound mages into the ground by not touching them and letting them kill themselves.


Actually, Heid, it currently works off of a crit that you would have taken if it weren't for your resil.

And, my own missing of e4e was more because it was a little "gimmicky" for what I was going for (Hybrid with an empasis on damage dealing). I'm also going to have to tweak my own gear here and there to maximize my damage dealing and healing abilities.

[Irontoe]

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?hunter=000000000000000000000000000320332513233031 530130301301034000000000000000000000000

Not going for damage or mana efficiency until I'm back to leveling. It's just way to much fun putting all my points in CC talents and locking down flag carrying teams in WSG =D

Also, whoever decided to put Readiness in the MM tree should be shot.

[Gorymoru]

Can anyone link some post 3.0.2 70 warlock specs? Wanna do some arenas before Wrath, and my time frame is getting smaller,

[Keraph]

I imagine SL/SL is still tops, especially if they're kickin Soul Link back up to 20&#37;. Or full Demo for metamorphosis.

Demonology plays into this, somehow.

[Yatokth]

I imagine SL/SL is still tops, especially if they're kickin Soul Link back up to 20%. Or full Demo for metamorphosis.

Demonology plays into this, somehow.

SL/SL = Full Affliction.

I imagine Full Demo will be pretty good as well.

[Keraph]

SL/SL = Full Affliction.

But obviously enough demo for Soul Link. So either way, some demo

[Averilyna]

At 80, SL/SL is Haunt/SL. Unless you're stupid.

They moved Soul Link to a lower tier with 3.0, allowing any spec to pick it up. Expect to see Chaos Bolt/Soul Link builds also.

[Fhenrir]

Stickied to replace the old spec thread. Keep 'em coming, and expect the OP to contain a list of specs in the near future.

[Gorymoru]

This (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/warlock/talents.html?tal=000000000000000000000000000000500 200000000000000000000055030015003031351135031051) is Zorael's current pvp destro spec ((70))

This (http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IZbxczsMZEc0q0huAkAcot) is what I am thinking for 80 arenas. For destro at least, I'll have to see what they do destro wise in spells, and think about it later. I might do something like affliction though.