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turen
07-18-2006, 02:24 AM
In my quest to make a backstory for a certain evil chicken I realized I don't know anything about demons!

Well other than they try to destroy worlds, Aegwynn fought em, Sargeas was a major player, and Mannaroth drove the orcs nuts by feeding them his blood.


Anyone care to enlighten me?

Aquizit
07-18-2006, 02:36 AM
Watcha wanna know?

Fhenrir
07-18-2006, 05:55 AM
I think he's just looking for general information on demons.

How they function in this world, what they can do, etc.

Fallacy
07-18-2006, 06:06 AM
Certain types?

From the lower on up...

Imps: Basic, lowly demons. Otherwise simple servants and laborers to the Burning Legion. There are several variations, and inhabit several areas where the Legion has stretched it's invasion.

Fel Hounds: Demon dogs, so to speak. They mainly feed off of arcane energies and the mana of other creatures. They aren't sentient, but merely attack squads under the control of higher demons.

Satyrs: Corrupted Night Elves, dipped into desecrated moonwells to be transformed into those forms. They vary in that they retain some Night Elf traits and abilities, but can use strong demonic magics, and can rip foes apart with their claws.

Felguards: The frontliners of the Legion. Orange or blue skinned, they also wield very large weapons, and are akin to fel orcs, in some retrospect.

Succubi: The seductresses. Masters of stealth and possession. They work mostly behind the scenes with corrupting other races. They are also rumored to be the female Nathrezim, but are much lower in rank.

Pit Lords: These creatures are the commanders of the Legion's main forces. They are the strongest physically out of any other demon, and often wield large, double-bladed swords, and can rain fire down upon their enemies. The best known one was Mannoroth, the corrupter of the orcs, who was slain by Thrall and Grom, and his armor now lies on a statue in Orgrimmar.

Nathrezim: Vampiric demons, one of the most mysterious races of the Legion. Not only are they horrific to fight, they can also influence the minds of others and have necromantic powers. They have the ability to summon other demons, including Infernals from the skies. However, at times, they also display ulterior motives to the Legion's and are extremely manipulative. One of the races that is said to have led to Sargeras's downfall.

Eredar: The elite of the Legion. The race that brought about warlocks and necromancy. Few other beings can match their prowess in magical abilities, and some can kill instantly with a simple spell. Kil'jaeden and formerly Archimonde are the two leaders of the Legion under Sargeras, and even Illidan fears his former master.

Sargeras is a fallen Titan, the only one known to ever have left the Pantheon. Aegwynn destroyed his body in Northrend, and it was lain in a tomb deep under the sea, but his spirit managed to possess her son, Medivh, while still in the womb. Using Medivh, Sargeras was able to open a great portal from Draenor and brought the orcs and other creatures into Azeroth. However, Khadgar was able to kill Medivh and send Sargeras's spirit out into the world. No one knows where he resides now.

And don't worry about Medivh. Aegwynn was able to resurrect him, which is why he appeared as the Prophet to warn of the Scourge Invasion.

There's also several undead and humanoid races sworn to the Legion, but most are just warlocks, and not directly changed.

Fhenrir
07-18-2006, 06:20 AM
Lets cover a couple other bases while we're at it.

Is this to say all demons are members of the Burning Legion and come from outside worlds?

Are there "demons" in a more typical sense, ala Diablo 2 demons?

Are there freelance "demons" who would be able to go out and randomly possess those poor unfortunate night elven hookers with the hearts of gold to allow them some of their clearly fantastic roleplay?

Aquizit
07-18-2006, 06:24 AM
No evidence has suggested as such, Fhenrir. As far as we know, all demons are under the control of the Burning Legion. Whether or not it's of their own want, or out of fear.. is something else altogether.

Fallacy
07-18-2006, 06:54 AM
"Demon" is sort of a different term in Warcraft. It's usually just used to denote members of the Burning Legion, besides what they really are. Eredar are in fact no different than the Draenei physically, but the Eredar are considered demons, while their Light-filled counterparts aren't.

Tarkor
07-18-2006, 09:24 AM
"Demon" can also be a term used to identify creatures spawned from the Twisting Nether. Regardless of actual race, any creature that is spawned from the Nether can be easily classified as "Demon".

Vilmah
07-18-2006, 09:38 AM
Eredar are in fact no different than the Draenei physically, but the Eredar are considered demons, while their Light-filled counterparts aren't.

Ghaaaaghhh!!! Space demons!!! *head explode*

Demortius
07-18-2006, 09:41 AM
I remember back in Warcraft 1 and 2 when they were called "Daemons." I miss those days. Daemon was a great name for em. And wasn't as generic as demon.

Voljaan
07-18-2006, 09:44 AM
Could you actually get that spell? I never found it.

Also, it would be awesome to have them introduced into the game as a Burning Legion elite or something.

Vilmah
07-18-2006, 09:48 AM
Daemons were those flying demons with bat wings that were all sexy n' stuff. I loved those guys... they remind me of the Dreadlords, except not as buff.

Tarkor
07-18-2006, 10:07 AM
Yeah.. those and Death Knights...

Demortius
07-18-2006, 10:53 AM
Yeah.. those and Death Knights...

When I first heard about being Undead in World of Warcraft a couple years or so back, first thought was "Ima gonna be a Deathknight! Woohoo!"

But alas...

Fhenrir
07-19-2006, 01:59 PM
"Demon" can also be a term used to identify creatures spawned from the Twisting Nether. Regardless of actual race, any creature that is spawned from the Nether can be easily classified as "Demon".

Is there any truth to this?

And if so, what exactly is "spawned from the nether" to begin with?

Noury
07-19-2006, 03:25 PM
"Demon" can also be a term used to identify creatures spawned from the Twisting Nether. Regardless of actual race, any creature that is spawned from the Nether can be easily classified as "Demon".

Is there any truth to this?

And if so, what exactly is "spawned from the nether" to begin with?

http://www.wowwiki.com/Twisting_Nether

That explains it nicely. Basically the Twisting Nether is "Hyperspace" for lack of a better comparison, a dimension between other planes of existence which magic can utilize as a transportation medium (teleports, summonings, hearthstones, etc..)

Also, it is the realm of demons, and the Burning Legion uses the Twisting Nether as a launching platform for their invasions.

I guess in WC1 it was sometimes referred to as Hades or Hell... concepts we are familiar with..

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Fhenrir
07-21-2006, 03:37 AM
No no, I understand what the Twisting Nether is.

What I'm asking about is what sort of things are spawned from the Nether.

Tarkor
07-21-2006, 08:55 AM
Pretty much any warlock pet, lol.

Everthing from imps to doom guards are spawned within the Twisting Nether. Imps, viodwalkers, succubi, felhounds, infernals, and doom guards is the general list. Of course there are many others, but these are the ones most commonly seen in Azeroth. All of these creatures have no set race or home, so Azerothian lore dictates them as simply being spawned from the demonic reaches of the Twisting Nether.

Fallacy
07-22-2006, 08:56 AM
Actually, we don't really know where about any of the demons originate from, with the exception of the Eredar. However, they were all once inhabitants of their own planets once, until Sargeras grabbed them up for his personal army. No demon just popped out of nothing, they were each once their own race with their own goals. Some joined willfully (Nathrezim), some were enslaved, and others were corrupted.

EnheilRas
09-08-2006, 02:19 PM
Most Demons are akin to Zerg.

Only a few races are demons (Nath'Rezim and Eredar--possibly Pit Lords but maybe not). The Rest are actually races and creatures in which the Burning Legion laid waste upon their home planets, and drained them of magic. The survivors became infected with Fel, and distorted and mutated into the demonic counterpart of what they were.

This is how Satyrs came to be.

The INfected Fel Orcs of the Warsong in the Battle of Felwood were what the Orcs were like for a generation. They'd be the demonicized (Coinage!) version of that race.

EnheilRas
10-06-2006, 05:10 PM
I would just like to mention the Toth'Rezim

http://www.wowwiki.com/images/2/23/Nathrezim.jpg

These Goro-like fellas don't get much props. They are the Demonic Cousins to the Nath'Rezim (Dreadlords). Unlike the Conniving Vampires, the Toth'Rezim are Greedy and value only gold and magic. Like the Dreadlords, they will work with whoever will offer them the most power.

What the Toth'Rezim do, is build. They are the constructors of the Burning Legion. They can Craft any and all things from the Fel Ore within the Twisting Nether. This means, in laymen's turns, that they are the makers of Infernals. They openly sell their creations to those which would pay them or trade them what they value.

The Infernal Stones you warlocks so dearly love to use are your coins you use for one of their creations. That reagent is the token they value (Hence the price, since they love Gold so much), which they offer their construct.

Just thought you 'locks should know who's givin' ya' 'yer goodies.

Nazshakul
10-06-2006, 05:12 PM
Thanks, I was just wondering about that. Interesting...

EnheilRas
10-06-2006, 05:36 PM
It's safe to say they craft all the Fel Armor and Rune Weapons the Legion uses as well.

Visca
12-10-2007, 06:48 PM
I played on Emerald Dream as an Alliance and found this in Exodar:

The Succubi came from a race known as the Sayaad
The Shivarra (Crazy 4 armed lady demons) are what they were
Pit Lords are from the Annihian race
Those tinkerers, engineers and the Felguards came from a race called the Mo'arg
Doom Guards are Ered'ruin
And the Wrath Guards are also Eredar.

I hope this is interesting/useful. I thought it might be noteworthy to someone.