PvP help!

[Cabriel]

So...

...I'm thinking of starting my first foray into PvP. I've dabbled *very* lightly with another character on another server, but amounting to nothing save a "Corporal" title. Cabriel is now 38 and I'm stalling to wait for my boyfriend's character to catch up.

Any and all tips/tricks/best practices/advice on this subject would be extremely welcome. :)

[Izrail]

You're a warlock, so LockNotes (http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8587-LockNotes.html) is an invaluable addon to have. This is the first two paragraphs of the description:


This is a fairly small mod that has been tailored to work specifically with the warlock class. It features spell notifications for events such as an enemy gaining cloak of shadows or spell reflect (and when they fade), if one of your spells is resisted, if you gain shadow trance (the nightfall buff), and much more.

It also includes short and non-intrusive sound clips to accompany most of the various warnings. All spell resists will play an identical 'thud' sound, hostile enemy buffs also share an identical sound, but it gives events such as Nightfall/Backlash a unique and easily distinguishable sound of their own. The idea behind the sound clips is that eventually, after enough play, you will barely need to read the text at all. If a rogue is chasing you and you hear the familiar hostile buff sound, you know he just popped cloak of shadows and to keep running for your life.

When I found a link to this mod on the official warlock forums I was skeptical, but I've used it for a while now and it's saved my ass, or helped me demolish one more mage before I die, many times.

Run with lots of soulshards. It isn't always easy to get a shard off a PvP target, and often you need to kill them too quickly to count on receiving a shard. Your time and mana is better spent on higher-damage spells. Armory isn't working for me so I can't see your exact build, but I recommend maxing out improved corruption, healthstone, and Demonic Embrace for greater survivability. Beyond that, you seem to prefer Demonology which I have little knowledge of, and I'm not sure what offensive capabilities other classes have at your level so I'm not sure how you would spend the talents to counteract them.

Keep Unending Breath and Detect Invisibility up when you can, so that your more important buffs have a chance of surviving a dispel.

Visit the physical locations of the battlegrounds, not just the battlemasters in major cities, and pick up what quests you can from there. Most of the rep items are for lower levels, so you might find good consumables or equipment there.

Kill the healers. Cast Curse of Tongues on them, sic your felhunter on them if you run with a felhunter--and do not let his silence ability run automatically. Pay attention and use it when they're casting a spell. You're a Blood Elf, so don't be afraid to run up and Arcane Torrent their ass either.

In Battlegrounds, stay near the flag. Defend your flag carrier or kill the enemy flag carrier and their healers in WSG. In AB, defend the nodes you take. Keep the battleground minimap up (Shift+M, I believe) so you can see where your teammates are at all times. If a node owned by the Horde has no one protecting it, run over to protect it. It gets boring but it's better than losing because no one had the patience to make sure the Alliance didn't ninja the node.

Again in battlegrounds, communicate with the other players. If you're defending a node in AB and Alliance run up, announce it in /bg. If you're in WSG and you see them running the Horde flag up the west side, announce that too. Lack of communication often means you lose the battle.

Those are some basics, and I may post more tips later as I think of them. ^^ I hope this was helpful and not just a rehash of the obvious.

[Xiphus]

Here are some tips I believe are more general:

1. Never click! It slows response time. Hotkey all your important skills and remap your keybinding so you can reach those keys without having to strain your fingers.

2. Watch your back. Heck, watch everything around you. Nothing kills a PVPer like inattentiveness.

3. Choose your targets wisely. Pick those you can kill very quickly first, then move to the harder targets. Or pick the targets who will give you and your team the most trouble. Depends on situation.

4. Don't panic! If you get cheap shot by that rogue, do not go 'Ah! Aaargh!'. Really, do that and you DIE! Panic means your response time is lessen, which means you won't be able to get that Death Coil off (or you get that Death Coil off too early before he Cloak of Shadows) and, well, you are a bloody pile on the ground.

[Medduren]

These are decent:

http://www.arenajunkies.com/

http://www.pvpsource.com/

but aren't entirely helpful until 70, I suppose. AJ, though, does have a nice macro section (http://www.arenajunkies.com/macros/warlock/) where you might find something generally useful.

Also: getting used to using keybinds at this point (as opposed to mouse-clicking your spells/skills) is a good idea.

Good luck!

P.S.

Priests hate you!

[Kaldore]

Someone gave me this PvP "manifesto" when I started levelling a Tauren Warrior on Dunemaul and somehow I kept getting worked over by Gnomes with question marks next to their character name and daggers in their hands...

It's a bit NerdRage, but I drank a couple RedBulls and it helped.





EQPvP 101 The Basics - Attitude
For those just starting on a Zek Server


Lesson 1: I came here to kill people

Repeat after me, "I came here to kill people"

Welcome to EverQuest with 'option' for PvP, but your grave and the coffin of
every player on the PvP servers was nailed shut when you logged into these
servers. If you are not here to kill or be killed, take your friendly ass to
Bluebie Ro or Friendly Marr.

This is Player vs Player, plan on dying, plan on having to defend yourself,
plan on having every goal you have set for yourself in the game outside of
PvP delayed. Plan on being stabbed by those you consider friends, plan on
getting upset, plan on accomplishing nothing for days on end.

You did not come here to kill dragons, you did not come here to kill gods,
you did not come here to have the phatest lewt in the game, you came here to
kill people. The sooner you get it through your bluebie head that you are a
killer, and REALIZE that this is what you wanted to be, the faster you will
start gaining the mentality that will keep you alive and the less you will
see "LOADING PLEASE WAIT".

If the dragons fall and the gods are defeated, those are added bonuses, but
you did not come to this server to do that, you are a killer or you are a
victim, your choice.



Lesson 2: You just got knocked the @#%$ out, what now?

Aweee, did Mister Meanie Inkie come gank you and take your spawn? Would you
like a tissue? Oh you think that if you spam him for the next hour calling
him every hostile word in your petty little head that you are going to upset
him? Bluebie Please.

Why did he kill you? Why did he have to come into your dungeon on your only
day off this month and gank you just before the spawn with the killer robe
you wanted was about to drop?

Your answer is simple, yet so hard for many to understand, "Because he can"

He came to this server to kill people, if you still haven’t grasped lesson
1, please review it now. If you are reading this for the third time, and
still haven't grasped lesson 1, please delete your sorry ass and get the
hell off of the "Zek" servers.

Now you are sitting naked at your bind point looking stupid, the newbies are
looking at you wondering what just kicked your ass. What are you going to
do?

You are going to run to your corpse, you are going to keep your mouth shut,
you are going to loot your corpse, and you are going to leave. Why are you
going to do this?

Because Mister Meanie Inkie kicked your ass, and Mister Meanie Inkie is
standing on your corpse that has everything you own on it. Because Mister
Meanie Inkie was smart enough to attack you when you were not ready, he has
earned the right to stay there at HIS spawn that your ass has forfeited to
him by combat at arms. Don't like this concept?

Too bad, welcome to Zek. Get your shit, get out, stay out for a while. Show
some respect to the player who just ganked you. There is gonna be a time
when he is on the ground bleeding to death because of your actions, and he
will be humbled back.

What now? There are more zones and spawns in this game then you can ever
see, time to find something else to do.

Give you a clue, how about going to the enemies home city and learning how
to fight.



Lesson 3: You are at the bottom of the food chain

Welcome to Zek, Mister Worm. You will eat dirt and like it. You should be
happy we allow you to have OUR dirt, the only reason you do is because we
have stopped caring about it, and players like you.

You do not own this server, you do not have the right to hunt anywhere
without our permission.

You may ask, who is "Our"? "Our" is the first generation players of the Zek
servers who run this place. Think of this as a jail cell, and we run the
block. Get out of order and get a beating. Want to play hardball with us,
then you best get strong, get some heavy levels, get a lot of friends, and
get owned anyway. Such is life on the Zeks.

You earn the right to eat better then dirt or the right to breathe by doing
one of two things.

First, is you ask our permission, and if we are in a humorous mood, we may
allow you.

Second is to do it with attitude and balls, and when we ask you why you are
on our turf, your response should be "Do something about it", for more about
"Do something about it" see lesson 6.

Again, You EARN the right to breathe, and eat something else besides dirt.
You EARN this right by being tougher then the people who are telling you
that you don't have this right. You EARN your respect, and your reputation.
You EARN the right to stop being a worm, and start being a rat.

If you want to be a rat without earning the right to be one, you will be
ganked over and over again. If you forgot what to do when we gank you,
please review lesson 2 a second time.

When you actually move up from Worm to Rat, you own the worms. Just be
careful, because some worms have cats as friends who like to eat Rats who
get too big for their ability to produce death.

Lesson 4: Just kill him

Ok, some munchie elfie just ganked your gnoll scout that you thought you
owned, that gnoll also had a rusty two handed sword that you really could of
used. If you seriously thought that was your gnoll, please go back and
review lesson 3. That was not your gnoll, that was OUR gnoll, how quickly
you forget.

So now you are upset, because this elfie interrupted your ability to level.
First, I thought I told you that you were not allowed to breathe without
asking for permission, but I guess you have started to get some balls and do
it anyway, good! You are learning.

So now this elfie just laughed at you and your inability to finish what you
have started. Feel the blood flowing yet? Getting mad? Feel yourself hitting
the keys while you are typing just a bit harder then before? Oh you are
starting to feel the pull to this server.

You are the little kid on the playground and some bully just took your ball.
Now the elfie walks over to 2 other elfies who are also higher level then
you, and nightmares of your childhood come to mind. The elfie gives that
sword to his friend, and he shows it off to you, taunting you to do
something about it.

Four choices you have in front of you, and this is your moment of truth.

First, you realize you are going to get your ass kicked, you turn around and
look for another one of our gnolls to kill. If this was your decision, start
the lesson over, because that same elf just did the same thing to you.

Second, you get stupid and call the "Police" to come intervene. Lets say for
kicks and giggles that a cop (Guide or GM) shows up, they are going to sit
down and explain to you that this is a pvp server, and they can do that.
This makes matters worse and now the elves are laughing hysterically at you.

Third, you shout to the zone for help, and all of a sudden the entire zone
is laughing at you. Please delete your character and go lie down next to
your dog in the corner. When the dog goes to eat out of his bowl, kick him
really hard and remind him that its your food. After doing this for an hour,
start a new character and come back into the game. Also, go back to lesson
one and start over EQPvP 101, you just failed.

Fourth and correct answer, just kill him. Walk up to him and his friends,
and kick all 3 of their asses. You do not talk smack, you do not try to come
up with some witty line out of a Rambo movie, you simply walk up and attack
the elf that took your kill. You do not stop until he is dead or you are
dead. You do not beat him down to almost no life then taunt him, you kill
him. If he runs to all the way from Blackburrow to Akanon, you follow his
ass to Akanon and finish it.

You do not run, you do not flee, you do not ask for help, you do not ask him
what his mother was doing with the ogre last night, you just kill him or die
trying.

If you do actually kill him, the next person that goes down is the one with
the rusty 2 handed sword. Why? Because he was the one who received it. You
keep attacking him until he is dead or you are dead. Rules are a bit
different now. If this one flees, chase him off the play ground, then go
after the third.

Why the third? Because he was there. Beat his ass into the ground and kill
him too. If he flees the playground, the playground is yours and you made
your point.

Now that is best case scenario, now lets deal with worst case scenario. You
attack them, and they OWN you. You get rooted, you get nuke bombed, and they
embarrass you. At this point, please return to lesson two and follow
instructions on what to do to get your corpse back.

At minimal, you showed them that you are not one to be fucked with, and next
time they will chose to pick on someone who they can bully and not have to
spend the time in battle with.



Lesson 5: School of Hard Knocks and RESPECT

Oh, you are one of those players who like to tell everyone that you can hunt
where you want to hunt because you pay your 10 bucks a month to be here?

Heh, great, we love players like you.

See, we pay our 10 bucks a month to do what we want to do, shove cold hard
reality in your face and make you scream in agony.

Oh please tell us you are the type who like to tell us they are going to
call the "Police" too, we love that.

I can play angel with the best of them, and when they show, my halo will be
polished to a clean shine, and will GLOW for them. You will be so upset that
you are using harsh language and screaming at the "police" person to do what
you think his job is because you pay his salary. You own everything, and the
Guide leaves laughing at you, because you forgot where you were.

See we know that the "Police" are king, and we treat them with respect at
all times. You are a piece of shit who thinks they own everything, we win.

Oh, now that the "police" are not going to help you still think you got a
chance? Oh you someone big in real life and are now gonna sue me?

Oh, you are my BEST friend, and we are gonna be best friends for a long
time.

I am going to follow you everywhere you go, I am going to kick your helm in,
I am bloody my sword on you or burn you to a crisp. I hope you walk into
water so I can root you and watch you drown. I get a kick of casting
blindness on you and watching you run off a cliff. I am going to kill you so
much that your hard drive is going to crash from so many LOADING PLEASE WAIT
sessions.

See on this server, you have one right, you have the right to get your body.
I am going to ask you to get your body and leave MY zone. You say no and
refuse to leave, I have the certified stamp of approval to put steel to bone
on you a second time. If you leave the zone, and I catch you in another
zone, you are free game.

Here is what you forgot. You don't run this server, its OUR server. Forgot
who OUR is, review lesson one.

Second, you forgot keep your mouth shut when you get your ass handed to you,
as learned in lesson 2.

Third, you forgot that you are a worm, and picked a fight with someone
higher up on the food chain then you, please review lesson 3.

Fourth, you didn't kick your dog hard enough, review lesson 4.

Fifth, you are here to learn the hard way, some people need that though, I
guess that is you.

Lets start with respect. First you need to learn the order of respect.

Highest respect is to the "Police", because you piss them off enough you
will no longer have an account, and you end up buying a second account and
starting on the bottom of the food chain again. They are the ultimate
authority regardless if you are a dragon who can kill any other 10 players
at one time. If one shows up, its "Yes m'lord" or "Yes m'lady" and whatever
they state is law, is law. Hear what they have got to say, don't argue, and
leave.

Second, is to you. Easiest way to respect yourself is to learn who you are
and where you are allowed and not allowed to be.

Third, is to the powers of the server. Learn who runs which area, and either
make friends with them, or don't cross them.

Third is anyone who can take you out. Either they are stronger characters or
play the game better, either way they can make your life hell if you piss
them off enough.

Fourth and final, is everyone below you on the food chain. Respect them
because even the smallest worms can grow up to be the largest dragons. They
will REMEMBER you if you made their life hell for reasons not out of
respect, and repay it a hundred times over. Don't mistake respect with being
soft, treat them rough, but be respectful.

No respect is given to those that show dishonor and lack of respect. Gank
these morons mercilessly and earn more respect from those who have honor and
show respect.


Lesson 6: Do something about it

Dont take shit from anyone on a zek server, play it tough, but play it
right. Someone says shit to you, hit them so hard that they see stars. If
they do anything but stand there and bleed hit them again. If they open
their mouth again hit them again. If they attack back, even a single punch,
finish the fight and put them on the ground. If they didn't attack you and
backed off, cool down and leave them, you proved your point.

Don't talk smack, let your actions tell the story. Anyone can come on the
server and talk big smack, it's the walk and actions that will make your
reputation.

Doing something about it doesn't mean bind point rushing and corpse camping
someone. This will be covered more in EQPvP 102, dealing with Honor and
Reputation. Doing something about it is about attitude.

As long as you maintain honor, do what you want to do. If anyone has a
problem with it, tell them they can do something about it. Someone doesn't
do something you like, do something about it. The worst thing you can do is
to never do anything. Sitting there with your thumb up your ass is the best
way to get ganked and earn the reputation of 'a lamer'

Lesson 7: Everyone takes a beating now and then

So you were walking around talking big smack and a group of 4 trolls
introduced you what pointy horns are really used for. You were picking on
some inkie who you thought was a cleric, and it turned out he was a SK who
Harmtouched you so hard that when you woke up, you had 3 different patches
to update. So you were laughing at a ranger 8 levels below you when he
stepped up and put you on the ground. Ok scratch the last one, it is too far
fetched, but you get the idea.

Realizing that you are mortal and can be killed is one of the most important
aspects of PvP combat. You are not a god, you can be killed. You will not
win every fight you engage.

The biggest thing to taking a beating is to LEARN from what happened. Why
did you die? What mistakes did you make? How could you of won that fight?
Where was your partner when you were getting turned into a Popsicle by the
troll with the staff?

Don't think that everything in this game is luck, there is a lot of skills
involved in PvP combat. Learning to make the same mistake ONCE and not
again, will keep you on the up and up and killing more.

Speaking of learning, your dog by now should know not to go to his food bowl
while you are lying on the ground trying to figure out the name of your next
character. If he can learn, so can you.



Lesson 8: Watch your back

Final lesson of EQPvP 101, is to always watch your back. If you are in a
dungeon, your back is against the wall, and you are watching your screen in
all directions to make sure no one is coming up on you.

If you are in an outdoor zone, you are on a zone wall, if you have to be in
the middle of the zone, you are in third person view watching all
directions.

Smart pvp’ers are constantly updating the /who list to know WHO is in the
zone. Those who have been around for a long time know most of the enemies by
name, approx level, definite class, and definite race. Also the reputation
of the player as a good pk or a bad pk, honor level, and the guild they
represent.

This knowledge takes time, but its something to get used to as soon as you
enter the zone.

[Keraph]

I adore that little blurb, Kaldore. Read it a long time ago, and it still holds true!

[Muatah]

As far as Battlegrounds go -

1. Kill Healers. The #2 reason I see a side lose a BG is because everyone is trying to leet skillz the Warrior/Rogue/Warlock/whatever in front of them while the Paladin/Druid/Priest/Shaman stands 25 yards to the side somewhere and heals, untouched.

2. Battlegrounds have objectives. These objectives are far more important than HKs. Know what those objectives are and work to accomplish them. The #1 reason I see a side lose a BG is because too many folks are out in the middle of nowhere kill farming.

3. Check the minimap often. It tells you where your teammates are and can give you important clues as to what is happening. The 3 dots that are defenders that have been hanging out at the Mine in AB are suddenly 1 dot by the flag and 2 clumped in the GY? Head that way even if no one has said anything in chat. Chances are the node is going down.

4. Situational awareness. Rotate your camera 360 degrees around you as much as you can. Know what is happening on all sides of you. Smart enemy teams will draw defenders away from nodes while stealthers sneak in behind and tap them.

[Sanrin]

You're the best, around! Nothings gonna ever keep you down!

I like a lot of these posts, but as someone who is JUST stepping into pvp why dont you try duels first. While doing this wont give you the same world pvp experience, it'll hammer into you the basics...particularly if you go up against classes you know you have a hard time with and the person is willing to tell you what you did wrong.

Also, the number one greatest thing you could ever do to improve your skill hasnt been listed here yet...record yourself pvp'ing! That way you can look back at your mistakes and see what you did wrong and how to avoid it...or at best show someone else the video and ask what you did wrong. Remember, you're not max level and this game isnt supposed to be balanced! Dont get frustrated if you keep losing against some classes, things changes at lv 70 particularly with gear changes!!! Dont let it discourage you, just pick your fights wisely!

[Lascivious]

Roll a ret pally.

[Swerto]

No... don't jump into easy mode >_>

[Irontoe]

One word (or a pair of acronyms): SL/SL.

[Izrail]

One word (or a pair of acronyms): SL/SL.

Which isn't possible until level 62. But right now it's the only option most warlocks have for arena. I say most, because some notable players (Drakedog) can get a high rating as something else but your best bet for PvP in higher levels is SL/SL. (At 70, it should look something like this. (http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=Iq0rVRckoZbxczIiz0es))

[Styxen]

How to pvp Cliff Notes:

Step 1: roll on a pvp server

Step 2: make a character

Step 3: find character of opposite faction that is red (Hostile, attackable)

Step 4: Attack them

Step 5: Win or die

Step 6: go back to step 3


In all honesty though, the only way you will get better or enjoy it is to realize when you first start you are going to die... a lot.

After that just keep going you will figure out what are you best moves for certain situations (Like what you should do against x class or when you have to 1 v 2 a couple people) Also the more you pvp the more you tend to realize how many bad players there are, and that you can beat them by just anticipating what they are going to do.

Like ret pallys that open with hammer or justice

Shamans that pop bloodlust 1v1 against other shamans or priests

Warlocks that open with death coil

So when you start to know what happens with most classes, you start to just come up with strategies to beat them because you know what to expect. Honestly it just happens too.

Best thing to do in BG's too is when you find yourself in the gy with a 20 second rez timer is to think about why you died, and what you could do not to die like that again.

[Boulderdash]

I find those types of pvp "manifesto" posts funny... I'm split between feeling sorry for the author, or just laughing at them.

They forgot the last thing you can do: Play on a different server, or quit the game altogether, because this one has internet tough guys who feel like trying to assert some type of false authority over other people in a game. Then, laugh when the aforementioned server or game gets shut down and their whole little world goes up in smoke because they were too busy being a-holes and the game or server isn't profitable for the company to maintain anymore.

Thankfully there isn't a WoW server that follows that kind of perspective. At least not one I'm aware of. Most of the people, on TN at least, aren't that flavor of idiot. We do have some, but they're pretty few and far between.

[Sanrin]

Or you can take it as it is, which is just a funny sort of satire on 'pretend fighting'...yanno instead of feeling sorry for the poor sad asshole that enjoys to play on a pvp server and...pvp?

[Boulderdash]

Or you can take it as it is, which is just a funny sort of satire on 'pretend fighting'...yanno instead of feeling sorry for the poor sad asshole that enjoys to play on a pvp server and...pvp?

If it's supposed to be satire I can appreciate it for what it is.

The sad thing is, on the Zek servers (I played EQ a loooong time ago) that kind of mentality actually prevailed. Believe it or not, the person who wrote that, was probably DEAD SERIOUS.

Trust me... I'm not someone who opposes pvp on a pvp server. What would be the point then? I just don't understand people who delude themselves into thinking they have any kind of real power over other people by doing so.

[Sanrin]

Well EQ pvp was definitely a different breed of monster, and since I believe you're right in suggesting that this author was from that game it can definitely be said they were serious on some level. Keeping in mind that in EQ you had to pvp alot of the times to actually keep endgame under your control (since instances didnt exist) I would say that its not a delusion of power at all! After all, you could actually defeat the purpose of the game (having fun) by camping someone till the cows come home.

The main point of this thread however should be the following, being no matter what you do dont give up and do NOT give in! If it starts to become unfun for some reason, be it constant loss or perhaps frustration at a bad scenario (keep getting premades in bgs) your best bet is to step away and come back later. Doesnt matter how good you are, when you're learning the ropes of anything you're gonna get your face stomped every once and a while for days at a time! : D

[Lailinarel]

Doesnt matter how good you are, when you're learning the ropes of anything you're gonna get your face stomped every once and a while for days at a time! : D

That is a very important thing to learn, the sooner you do, the better off you are.

I'm a pretty good rogue, I can go toe to toe with most players/classes/specs but every now and then there will be a set up you just can't seem to beat, even if you have in the past, they might be a more experienced player, they might have better gear, they might just know how to kill you. It happens. You learn from it.

Something else that a lot of folks forget is that while the cookie cutter builds / play styles are powerful, (obviously that's why they are the most frequently used builds) there is always more than one way to play a class, and or spec. If something just doesn't work for you, try something different, feel it out. Learn your class from experience, not just what someone tells you works, that way you'll see WHY it works.

[Daly]

Keeping in mind that in EQ you had to pvp alot of the times to actually keep endgame under your control...

There only feeling more wonderful than knowing you were being shadowed by another guild and the slow raid kicks inot high gear because you knew you had 15 minutes at best once you started pulling before the PvP began, was being one of the 10 shadows and throwing your corpse at people to try and slow them down.

I really miss that about EQ. Tallon Zek represent.

On topic, be criticial of yourself and accept constructive criticism for what it is. Constructive. Things like, he outgeared me, he was a rogue, he was 15 levels higher won't make you any better. Approach every situation like you should be able to win, 2v1, 3v1, it doesn't matter. Like Sanrin said, recording yourself is a great way to review the fight and see where mistakes were made, but failing that just review it in your head, find your mistakes and then don't make them again.

Use CC wisely. Don't bother fearing the rogue that has hit CoS, don't waste DC on that mage you just feared. Warlocks are killing machines, but they are slow killing machines. You don not want to get into a DPS race with anyone. Knowing that after you die your Dots will kill your enemy is cold comfort in my ever so humble opinion.


Priests hate you

The first thing you do to a lock is strip Demon Armor. With fear ward up, you have a free spell. Silence when they Mana or life drain only. Fear as soon as it comes back. Dot and VE both the lock and his pet for double HP return. Dispell everything he puts on you. Depending on the mana versus hit point pool, I run about 50 - 50 with warlocks.

[Lailinarel]

Important rule to live by.

Just cause your guild is bigger / more well known than mine doesn't mean I won't grind your arrogant face into the ground every time we fight.

Lailinarel 6 - Darkharbingr 0

Blitzkriege warlock was killing lowbies at Refuge Pointe, I figured he would mess me up seeing as how I'm specced more for dps than pvp right now. Even when I let him get the first hit on me he never got me below 30%, and I rarely used any cool downs other than my trinket and CloS.

What does this mean? It means that simply cause you've got gear doesn't mean that someone with a fairly unique play style and a moderate amount of pvp experience won't come and mop the floor with you. I didn't camp him, in fact I let him eat and drink, summon a pet and gave him ample time to leave Refuge Pointe before attacking him again. I let him see me and he would take the first shot. What does it mean? It means know when you're outgunned and have the brains to not waste your time running headlong into a brick wall.

Really he made tons of amateur mistakes, things like deathcoiling me as an opener, trying to cast fears while I was already in melee, so on, but I guess I give him credit for the fact that he seemed to be learning a little bit from each loss. He did try using a succubus, and really if he had just had a move speed enchant on his pvp boots he might have gotten me.

[Korrin]

Blitzkriege warlock

Their's your problem :p

[Lailinarel]

Hehe, well at one point I respected some of their members enough in pvp to bother putting them on my guilds kill on sight list. I've been slacking a little bit lately in the world defense department, but are they generally considered pitiful in pvp nowadays?

I mean, as far as I know, most folks don't know more about my guild than that they have seen us around a few times, and I generally like it that way. We're small and proud of the fact that when one of us gets jumped by a party of horde, we can generally win a fight even with inferior numbers.