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Irontoe
05-13-2008, 05:35 PM
Types of Gankers (http://www.mahoganyfinish.org/?p=67). Disclaimer: All opinions expressed within are my own and should not reflect negatively upon the Cartel Enforcers.
Swerto
05-13-2008, 06:27 PM
You're not part of the cartel anymore so it wouldn't matter :P
-rasp-
Anyways I'm a different kind of ganker... I'm an RP ganker... I gank for RP reasons on some characters but will do it honorably... I hate battle ganking and I hate camping... I avoid the two.
Sanrin
05-13-2008, 07:29 PM
So you're not a ganker at all?
Xiphus
05-13-2008, 07:30 PM
I'm the pragmatic ganker. I gank if it serves to benefit me in some way. Otherwise, I just leave the fellow alone.
Pyrisath
05-13-2008, 11:05 PM
Awh, its missing something.
Backstab gankers: They will seem to be unwilling to kill you, and may not kill you at all. But, kill their named quest mob, and your ass is their dinner.
That'd be me. hehe...
Aetheril
05-14-2008, 03:08 AM
As a semi-carebear, I really don't gank, to avoid repurcussions...I'll emote to a lowbie, kind of a fair warning. But then again, if they attack me, I beat them down. But, if they're going to attack me when I'm so much higher, that usually means they're bait, and then a higher lvl to jump out of hiding and gank me for ganking their friend. Happened to me a couple times.
I wonder where that strategy fits in?
It's kind of silly, though...while levelling Aeth, the people who attack me are either far below my level (usually with higher ups in escort or lying in wait) or far above me. I've had maybe one world PvP case where the enemy was yellow. Generally I get along with same-level people, but only because I justify it in an RP sense with "this locale is dangerous, a fight between us is pointless" kind of deal. But that's just my character type...
Come later, I think he's going to become a lot more aggressive...
Lucreciaa
05-14-2008, 07:05 AM
As will Securo :P I'm changing his spec to Holy soon I think so he is actually viable at PvP and not just PvE (prot is cool for PvE but I'm about to hit the dark times where there is no PvE outside of questing)
Gorvena
05-14-2008, 04:36 PM
Chingaso "RP ganks" Draenai because he blames them for the Eredar, Night Elves because they killed his family, and humans in retaliation for his mentor being killed in front of him in an interrment camp. Dwarves and gnomes are relatively "safe" unless they cross him.
Gor'vena also hates Draenai (RP-wise, all orcs should), but only really goes out of her way to make life miserable for gnomes, because she is so paranoid about them.
And...every once in a great while I will be somewhere "lowbie" and kill an alliance player just for shits and giggles only to discover that I achieve neither.
Broxigan
05-14-2008, 04:52 PM
Gor'vena also hates Draenai (RP-wise, all orcs should)
Reasoning please. I can see the reason because of the Eredar, but at the same time, we have Fel orcs. Should we not hate ourselves? O.o
Also, it was the orcs who slaughtered the draenei. Draenei have much more of a reasoning to hate us than vice versa.
Gorvena
05-14-2008, 06:26 PM
But the Orcs were deceived into the slaughter by the Eredar. And, to get right down to it, Draenai were alien intruders who knew they were being pursued by the Eredar. It's Velen's fault, and Gor'vena took great satisfaction in contributing to his death when the Grim ransacked their city.
As for "hating ourselves," Hellscream and Thrall redeemed us from the trechery of Gul'dan. The Fel Orcs are the work of Ilidan.
And why can't we attack the shade of Gul'dan in Shadowmoon? That would be a good world boss encounter.
Tecun Uman
05-14-2008, 06:46 PM
Since joining the Grim, I will attack any alliance on sight, unless the odds are very much against me. So that makes me an RP ganker I suppose. I do not however, camp people. Unless they have done that to me that is.
Yatokth
05-14-2008, 06:48 PM
I kill anything red on sight, excepting when there are three red names that are 70 or near it and I am by myself, as that's just insanity.
If they're 70, depending on how I'm feeling (bored, want to fight, just doing dailies, etc) I may or may not wait for them to regen. Sometimes when I'm doing dailies I avoid it altogether just to not get into a gank war.
I dislike camping. I only do it to those who camp me first, or are such assholes to either me or my buddies that they deserve it. Oftentimes, I'll just kill you, call it square, and go on my way. If you come back at me for revenge, great, more power to ya, but watch your back after you're done. ;) (if you win)
Why do I kill anything red on site? A few reasons. I like PvP. I like testing my skills often. (this falls into the category of waiting for regen and then having a real fight - done it with some allies, much respect to them) I like beating the piss out of dickheads. Yat, RP-wise, is very very warlike, he's a fighter, and he despises most of the alliance, and until you give him reason to think that you are not just another piece of scum, he'll gut you with his giant sword without a second thought.
Cristok
05-14-2008, 06:57 PM
I suppose I like to kill for sport. If they are alive and red then they must soon be dead. If the mouse dies than the kitty eventually stops screwing with it...
On the other end of things I have never ever ever been really grief camped. I LOVE it when they try to though and it is awesome playing Cat and Mouse with a group of folks looking to camp you. This is from the perspective of stealth classed (Druid and Rogue alt ) so I suppose that is why I never get the camp on.
I sometimes try and grief someone just so they will attempt to put me on lock down. Before my RP days this is what I filled my time with almost exclusively was griefing, camping and grinding the BG's to make the former two easier. I feel like us griefers are what makes WoW fun and exciting and why PvP servers are superior to PvE. Regardless of ones own opinion on camping it is part of them game on our servers and if you can't stand the heat, well....
Yatokth
05-14-2008, 07:58 PM
I suppose I like to kill for sport. If they are alive and red then they must soon be dead. If the mouse dies than the kitty eventually stops screwing with it...
On the other end of things I have never ever ever been really grief camped. I LOVE it when they try to though and it is awesome playing Cat and Mouse with a group of folks looking to camp you. This is from the perspective of stealth classed (Druid and Rogue alt ) so I suppose that is why I never get the camp on.
I sometimes try and grief someone just so they will attempt to put me on lock down. Before my RP days this is what I filled my time with almost exclusively was griefing, camping and grinding the BG's to make the former two easier. I feel like us griefers are what makes WoW fun and exciting and why PvP servers are superior to PvE. Regardless of ones own opinion on camping it is part of them game on our servers and if you can't stand the heat, well....
Honestly, if you like camping, more power to you in my opinion, it's fun for you, I just don't see the point honestly, it feels like too much waiting for too little real payoff other than knowing that I'm killing the same guy again at half health.
The cat-and-mouse aspect is indeed very fun though, I do kind of enjoy tryign to get away / ambush campers as it's just alot of fun. But camping myself just doesn't really give me very much fun, so I don't do it haha.
Pyrisath
05-14-2008, 10:35 PM
But the Orcs were deceived into the slaughter by the Eredar. And, to get right down to it, Draenai were alien intruders who knew they were being pursued by the Eredar. It's Velen's fault, and Gor'vena took great satisfaction in contributing to his death when the Grim ransacked their city.
As for "hating ourselves," Hellscream and Thrall redeemed us from the trechery of Gul'dan. The Fel Orcs are the work of Ilidan.
As far as I know, the orcs were at a peace with the draenei, in open trade with them, until the demons began contacting Ner'Zhul and his cronies. That demon(Forgot who it was, but the orcs did not see him, they heard him) convinced them that the Draenei were plotting against, them. So the Shadowmoon Clan's leaders, having a major say in what the Orcs do as a whole, began outlawing contact with the Draenei, which then lead into the open conflict once shamanism was banned and the Blood Pact was made. They never really saw the eredar, as the smarter demons knew they might think something was up if they saw them. The Blood pact caused the forming of the First Horde under Doomhammer, and all orc children had the years taken from them by warlocks so that they could jumpstart a massive army.
Fel Orcs are not the work of Illidan. The demon energies that permeated Draenor when the demons began walking beside the orcs caused the Mag'har to turn green, which was a process with their skin falling off. Some orcs left for Azeroth, and they escaped this taint, and were not corrupted further. Fel Orcs are the ones who stayed, and the continued exposure caused their skin to turn red and grow their horns.
tl;dr, lore rant. That was longer than I had hoped.
EDIT: Thanks for the following post. My lore has become groggy from my break from WoW I took. Just needed that little refresher =P
Xiphus
05-14-2008, 11:09 PM
The eredar was Kil'jaeden himself. And the First Old Horde's Warchief was not Doomhammer, but Warchief Blackhand, the father of Rend Blackhand. Doomhammer offed him and took the mantle, but that was a story for another day. The Fel Orc was around for a while in Draenor after they drunk a pit lord's blood, usually Magtheridon's. They were there when Magtheridon was the big boss of Outland, and they are still there after Illidan forcefully acquire the Black Temple. They just shifted allegiance. Fel Orcs also appeared in Azeroth, or rather, Ashenvale, after Grom Hellscream and the rest of the Warsong Clan drank from a fountain tainted by Mannoroth's blood. They were cured though in the end. The rest of the lore is spot on though.
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